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zen pins or tang pins?

subieman Feb 3, 2015

  1. subieman

    subieman Little member

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    what are the thoughts on zen pins vs tang pins? which one lasts longer on a quality bali? my prefernce is solid channel handles with single tang pin.:forumnoob:
     
  2. TheronJ

    TheronJ JDBA4L JDBA Official Member

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    Zen pins are easier to replace, tang pins last longer.

    Some people think zen pins are too bouncy I guess.
     
  3. Tmack

    Tmack Level: True Devil

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    Zen pins definitely last longer than tang pins. Id think

    Tang pins have the added stress of failure. On 4x they get flat spots, deform, and get loose. On knives that have a round tang cup, I've never had a problem at all.
    I like the feel of a tang pin but,,
    Zen pins are much more reliable, and stress free, but are bouncy.

    The bounce really doesn't bother me, so I much prefer Zen pins.
     
  4. VashHash

    VashHash JDBA4L JDBA Official Member

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    I find zen pins have that extra bounce. Of course aesthetically zen pins look slicker and of course being user replaceable or just replaced easily is a big advantage. My preference would be for tang pins or tang pin and kicker. Of course with the kicker you lose some edge length. Zen pins can go right to the edge and the corresponding cut out can be used as a sharpening choil/notch. I don't like the tit on the back of the blade for zen pins. I do like the hybrid balis that used a tang pin when the bali opens and zen pins when it closes. Best of both worlds if you ask me. I don't find the zen pin bounce as bad when closing the bali.
     
  5. OnceBitten

    OnceBitten Momma said I'd go blind Brigade Member

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  6. Tmack

    Tmack Level: True Devil

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    I was waiting on that^^^
     
  7. nostimos

    nostimos JDBA4L JDBA Official Member Brigade Member

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    I was gonna say BOTH! Just to be a smart ass.
    But I didn't realize these hybrids actually exist.
    Examples?
     
  8. VashHash

    VashHash JDBA4L JDBA Official Member

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    Szabofly first i can think of. Of course it's not a trick flipper. More special purpose bali.
     
  9. vileperson

    vileperson Enormous member

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    lol at "special purpose".

    Is that like special needs? :unintroduced:
     
  10. VashHash

    VashHash JDBA4L JDBA Official Member

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    It's more made for" defensive" purposes.
     
  11. VashHash

    VashHash JDBA4L JDBA Official Member

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    Tang pin into zen pin
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  12. Dead-On

    Dead-On Grateful Member JDBA Official Member

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    Zen pins... Tang pins... Yadda Yadda.

    Your collection isn't complete until you acquire a bali with kicker pins.
     
  13. squidmaster23

    squidmaster23 JDBA4L JDBA Official Member

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    Can someone explain/show what a kicker pin is?
     
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  14. Tmack

    Tmack Level: True Devil

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    Im pretty sure a tang pin is on the bottom, kicker is on the top on a dual pin Bali. Ab, tach, spyderfly, hom, etc.
     
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  15. Dead-On

    Dead-On Grateful Member JDBA Official Member

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    There's a thread from about 2 years ago that explains it thoroughly. Unfortunately my search skills are pretty bad, perhaps somebody will post the link.

    But I bet if you ask Glenn real nice he will explain it in great detail.
     
  16. L3b4

    L3b4 JDBA4L JDBA Official Member

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    The kicker pin holds the kicker in place, check out the 42
     
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  17. Dead-On

    Dead-On Grateful Member JDBA Official Member

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    Something tells me you're the kind of guy that goes around telling children there is no such thing as Santa Claus.
     
  18. VashHash

    VashHash JDBA4L JDBA Official Member

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    Kicker pins are used on the 9 hole twista. :thumbsup:
     
  19. L3b4

    L3b4 JDBA4L JDBA Official Member

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    fix'd, now fix that quote and it'll all be okay
     
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  20. Linos

    Linos baliholickydexbender JDBA Official Member Knife Maker or Craftsman

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