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begreen61 Apr 19, 2018

  1. begreen61

    begreen61 Deadicated JDBA Official Member Brigade Member

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    Any body else get this agreement demand ,,and thats what it is stating sooner or later we have to agree ,,The way i'm looking at it I'm agreeing to give up a lot of my constitutional rights Mainly privacy ,,all data can be see by third party but do not say who third party is ,,,,and I don't know how much data they can take ,,listen I know they see me ,,,doesn't mean I'm going to give the fuckers my permission to fuck me if down the road something gets turned upside down and I got stuck in the middle minding my own business ,,just saying ,,,beit heres a copy of what they want me to agree ,,may have to ::::::::::::::;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;::::::::::::::::::;;;
    :cf:


    • We’ve updated our choice of law and forum provisions. New York law now governs and New York, New York is the designated forum.

    Privacy Policy Updates Summary
    • We’ve made it more readable! We took care to make it easier for you to understand our services and our privacy practices.
    • We’ve updated how we collect and use data. We’ve updated some of the ways we collect and analyze user data in order to deliver services, content, and relevant advertising to you and protect against abuse. This includes:
      • Analyzing content and information (including emails, instant messages, posts, photos, attachments, and other communications) when you use our services. This allows us to deliver, personalize and develop relevant features, content, advertising and services
      • Linking your activity on third-party sites and apps with information we have about you
      • Providing anonymized and aggregated reports to other parties regarding user trends
    • We’ve joined Verizon. By joining Verizon, Oath and its affiliates may share the information we

    • receive among Verizon. Learn more about Verizon’s privacy practices.
    • New information regarding personalization. We’ve included new information explaining how we combine data among our services and across your devices and Oath accounts. This allows us to provide more personalized content and services.
    • We’ve updated user choices. We’ve provided additional information about your choices when using our services, and given you control in our Privacy Controls section.
    What You Need to Do

    We have designed these changes to help improve your experience with Oath and its brands. To review and agree to the new Terms of Service and Privacy Policy, please click the button below. These changes go into effect as soon as you consent.

    Review and agree now

    Please note that although our services will continue to be available under the existing terms for now, you will eventually need to agree to the new Terms of Service and Privacy Policy in order to continue to use our services. If you have any questions or need additional help, please refer to this link.

    Thank you for your continued loyalty and support.


    Sincerely,
    Oath


    :koolaid:

    What do you all think ,,I can't find it in me to agree ,,yet hate to give up begreen61,,,,It's was hippyfreek before that then I got hacked in the late 90ies and became begreen61 ,,,,,,,I just don't know how deep they can go in my computer and still it's the give up my rights thing .

    What ye say,,,,,
     
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  2. waterdogs

    waterdogs Brigade Member Brigade Member

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    Having Yahoomail as my email provider, I just received the same message from Oath.... yes. it sucks. I have come to the conclusion that we basically have NO expectation of privacy any more, and very few rights regarding any control over the ultimate destination of our personal info.
    Whenever you click the "I Agree" button on any of those TOU agreements, your shit is thrown out into the arena, where it`s likely to be ravaged by any number of questionable recipients.
    Orwell`s "1984" may have arrived here a few years late, but it`s certainly with us now !
     
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  3. Kelper

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    I have been on the internet since the late 90s. I go where I feel I enjoy being there. I have an email account..ebay..this site and Facebook to stay in touch with family. I try not to post anything religious or my political thoughts, personal daily updates on social media I don't need that. My kids can call me or I them. The most intrusive thing is google maps..even offline it seems to know where I am even if I have lost my way geographically speaking. Our I.P addresses are the first thing that indentifies us. Do I care? No, I have nothing to hide. We are in my opinion, supposed to be afraid of big brother. Life will not change for me because this is all I like in my interweb stuff.
     
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  4. waterdogs

    waterdogs Brigade Member Brigade Member

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    Don`t ever underestimate the potential for abuse resulting from these situations. Some of those TOU agreements give up the power for them to harvest the info of everyone you communicate with, and create targets of those folks as well....the level of intrusion is almost unlimited. Just because you don`t see a threat that`s immediately imminent doesn`t mean it`s not there....
     
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  5. Kelper

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    One can 'see' threat's on anyone, I totally agree with you. The threats , the intrusions have always been there since we leave a digital mark behind us. My family and friends know that too..hence being cautious on a public platform. I cannot be responsible for the postings of some of my friends..hence no comments likes or loves..neutral at all times because certain things can be discussed privately which is often the case.
     
  6. begreen61

    begreen61 Deadicated JDBA Official Member Brigade Member

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    My friend if I give in because my ego wants it it's willing to
    My friend I'm such a selfish baster never thought of my friends ,,Your so right giving my rights up can give that so call third party access to others through e-mails ,,something like sending a Bali to NYC knowing it's illegal but doing it because your a hard core flipper and you just gave this third party info on your and the buyer/seller ( Whatever) transaction ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,Awesome ,,,I'm telling all this is not an agreement we want to make ,,Funny I have paid thousands of dollars to lawyers in my bad boy days to protect my rights and keep me out of jail ,,,,I am not that person any more buut I really don't feel confortable with this ,,,and do I got to watch who I talk to through e-mail that have yahoo where do I stop or what ,, sad thing so many will agree with out thinking twice sheep ,,No one thinks for them self any more heads buried in their phones WTF

    I smell a rat and I don't like it ,, I do have a g.male account ,, bepositivealways61@gmail. I think it's time for change in my life ,,,I hope gmail don't become globalist enablers also because they been backing most of the big brother campaigns for the past few years ,,
     
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  7. Kelper

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    I never got a TOS from Gmail Yet!!. All companies have a Terms of Use for sharing information. Will endeavor to post a link

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terms_of_service
    Link posted above
     
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  8. Kelper

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    Only post what YOU feel comfortable with. If not comfortable call or meet in person to discuss.
     
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  9. waterdogs

    waterdogs Brigade Member Brigade Member

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    Most definitely !
    Be careful of what you say to who....when it comes to any subject that might stretch the legal limit, discussing that with one or more other people constitutes (in the eyes of the law) a conspiracy, which in itself can have far more serious consequences than the act of crime. A tangled web indeed, discretion is your best friend !
     
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  10. longbow

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    Here is my take on the I-net thing and privacy. My oldest son has a good friend that before that good friend moved back to our home town worked as a cyber specialist for the DOD. Some unknown part of the DOD as I understand it. This kid graduated from RIT with a comp. science degree and was tops in his class and as my son states messed around with computers since he was a little kid. So last year they were at dinner with my younger son and mates etc.etc. So they get to talking and this friend of my son is schooling them all on what foreign entities are doing and trying to do to different areas of secure and unsecured networks in the U.S. Just in generalities mind you. Long story short the friend of my sons pulls out his cell phone and on that cell phone he types in a buddies name and address. Up pops every conceivable thing on this buddy's personal information, home location, credit report, credit cards, neighbors etc.etc. All on this guys phone. When I say everything I mean everything as in regards to having an existence on planet earth. So my take is anything once you put it out there someone some place has a line on you no matter what encryption used, what agreement you have to sign and so forth.

    Another case in point is that my older brother back in the late 60's gets drafted but before opening the letter he goes down to the local recruiter and enlists in the USAF. He ends up in USAFSS and spends about 4 yrs over seas doing what he did for USAFSS and the NSA. He said back then in the late 60's and early 70's if anybody any where in the world used a landline of any kind he could hear ya if chose to do so. So take that technology back then and extrapolate it to today and nothing anywhere is private anymore. Agreements don't mean anything imho. I am sure we are all monitored, some more some less. Keepem sharp and I ain't paranoid!
     
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  11. crogers

    crogers Magnus advocatus diaboli JDBA Official Member Super Moderator Brigade Member

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    The NSA has been reading your email and listening to your cell calls for years! Probably have taps on most of your telephones as well.

    If they think that you're up to something, they're probably monitoring your public conversations. When you get down to it, they don't fucking trust us, and I don't trust them either.

    Fer fuck's sake, they even track your grocery purchases when you use a discount card.

    FearThePeople.jpg
     
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  12. begreen61

    begreen61 Deadicated JDBA Official Member Brigade Member

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    Got this today:::


    Yahoo <Yahoo@communications.yahoo.com>
    To:begreen61@yahoo.com
    May 23 at 7:25 PM
    [​IMG]
    [​IMG]
    Dear Member,
    (Review and agree now

    To help you understand some of the key updates, we’ve provided a summary below as well as a description of what tools are available to you to manage your data and experience within Oath’s house of brands. Please note that this summary is not exhaustive and we encourage you to review the updated versions of our Terms of Service and Privacy Policy. Those terms and not this summary will govern your relationship with Oath. To learn more about our approach to privacy, click here.

    Terms of Service Updates Summary
    • We’ve added a mutual arbitration clause. Hopefully, disputes will never be an issue, but in the case of one, this allows a third-party arbitrator to help us resolve them. We’ve also added a class action waiver. These provisions are an important part of our relationship with you, so please read them carefully.
    • We’ve specified the legal entity that provides each service to you. For some services, this may be a different entity than the entity that previously provided the service. We’ve also reserved the right to transfer the providing entity for each service in the future.
    • General provisions that apply to billing, auto-renewal, and refunds have been added. Unless the additional terms for a service override the Terms of Service, these provisions apply to your use of our paid services.
    • Applicability of Terms. If you are using our services on behalf of another account owner (e.g., as an administrator, consultant or analyst) or on behalf of a company, business or other entity, the Terms of Service apply to your activities and are binding on the account owner or entity.
    • Indemnity for Non-Personal Use. If you are using our Services on behalf of a company, business or other entity, or if you are using our Services for commercial purposes, we’ve added an indemnity provision, which requires you and the entity to protect us against certain legal actions.
    • We’ve updated our choice of law and forum provisions. New York law now governs and New York, New York is the designated forum.

    Privacy Policy Updates Summary
    • We’ve made it more readable! We took care to make it easier for you to understand our services and our privacy practices.
    • We’ve updated how we collect and use data. We’ve updated some of the ways we collect and analyze user data in order to deliver services, content, and relevant advertising to you and protect against abuse. This includes:
      • Analyzing content and information (including emails, instant messages, posts, photos, attachments, and other communications) when you use our services. This allows us to deliver, personalize and develop relevant features, content, advertising and services
      • Linking your activity on third-party sites and apps with information we have about you
      • Providing anonymized and aggregated reports to other parties regarding user trends
    • We’ve joined Verizon. By joining Verizon, Oath and its affiliates may share the information we receive among Verizon. Learn more about Verizon’s privacy practices.
    • New information regarding personalization. We’ve included new information explaining how we combine data among our services and across your devices and Oath accounts. This allows us to provide more personalized content and services.
    • We’ve updated user choices. We’ve provided additional information about your choices when using our services, and given you control in our Privacy Controls section.
    What You Need to Do

    We have designed these changes to help improve your experience with Oath and its brands. To review and agree to the new Terms of Service and Privacy Policy, please click the button below. These changes go into effect as soon as you consent.

    Review and agree now

    Please note that although our services will continue to be available under the existing terms for now, you will eventually need to agree to the new Terms of Service and Privacy Policy in order to continue to use our services. If you have any questions or need additional help, please refer to this link.

    Thank you for your continued loyalty and support.


    Sincerely,
    Oath




    what say thee,,,
    g
     
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  13. begreen61

    begreen61 Deadicated JDBA Official Member Brigade Member

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    got this again today:::::::

    Yahoo <Yahoo@communications.yahoo.com>
    To:begreen61@yahoo.com
    May 23 at 7:25 PM
    [​IMG]
    [​IMG]
    Dear Member,
    (Review and agree now

    To help you understand some of the key updates, we’ve provided a summary below as well as a description of what tools are available to you to manage your data and experience within Oath’s house of brands. Please note that this summary is not exhaustive and we encourage you to review the updated versions of our Terms of Service and Privacy Policy. Those terms and not this summary will govern your relationship with Oath. To learn more about our approach to privacy, click here.

    Terms of Service Updates Summary
    • We’ve added a mutual arbitration clause. Hopefully, disputes will never be an issue, but in the case of one, this allows a third-party arbitrator to help us resolve them. We’ve also added a class action waiver. These provisions are an important part of our relationship with you, so please read them carefully.
    • We’ve specified the legal entity that provides each service to you. For some services, this may be a different entity than the entity that previously provided the service. We’ve also reserved the right to transfer the providing entity for each service in the future.
    • General provisions that apply to billing, auto-renewal, and refunds have been added. Unless the additional terms for a service override the Terms of Service, these provisions apply to your use of our paid services.
    • Applicability of Terms. If you are using our services on behalf of another account owner (e.g., as an administrator, consultant or analyst) or on behalf of a company, business or other entity, the Terms of Service apply to your activities and are binding on the account owner or entity.
    • Indemnity for Non-Personal Use. If you are using our Services on behalf of a company, business or other entity, or if you are using our Services for commercial purposes, we’ve added an indemnity provision, which requires you and the entity to protect us against certain legal actions.
    • We’ve updated our choice of law and forum provisions. New York law now governs and New York, New York is the designated forum.

    Privacy Policy Updates Summary
    • We’ve made it more readable! We took care to make it easier for you to understand our services and our privacy practices.
    • We’ve updated how we collect and use data. We’ve updated some of the ways we collect and analyze user data in order to deliver services, content, and relevant advertising to you and protect against abuse. This includes:
      • Analyzing content and information (including emails, instant messages, posts, photos, attachments, and other communications) when you use our services. This allows us to deliver, personalize and develop relevant features, content, advertising and services
      • Linking your activity on third-party sites and apps with information we have about you
      • Providing anonymized and aggregated reports to other parties regarding user trends
    • We’ve joined Verizon. By joining Verizon, Oath and its affiliates may share the information we receive among Verizon. Learn more about Verizon’s privacy practices.
    • New information regarding personalization. We’ve included new information explaining how we combine data among our services and across your devices and Oath accounts. This allows us to provide more personalized content and services.
    • We’ve updated user choices. We’ve provided additional information about your choices when using our services, and given you control in our Privacy Controls section.
    What You Need to Do

    We have designed these changes to help improve your experience with Oath and its brands. To review and agree to the new Terms of Service and Privacy Policy, please click the button below. These changes go into effect as soon as you consent.

    Review and agree now

    Please note that although our services will continue to be available under the existing terms for now, you will eventually need to agree to the new Terms of Service and Privacy Policy in order to continue to use our services. If you have any questions or need additional help, please refer to this link.

    Thank you for your continued loyalty and support.


    Sincerely,
    Oath
     
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  14. wes

    wes Mephistopheles Super Moderator Brigade Member

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    Yep, Yahoo sucks. Has for a long time. Flickr was the only good product they had and now they are selling it off to SmugMug.
     
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  15. begreen61

    begreen61 Deadicated JDBA Official Member Brigade Member

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    I say if your insisting i have to sign ,,fuck you ,, ,,thats like giving permission to a vampire to enter your house ,read my e-mails my ass ,, why do they want me to personally give up my rights ,it's just not happening,,,,,,
     
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  16. wes

    wes Mephistopheles Super Moderator Brigade Member

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    Well, you already give up many rights when you use a web based mail system. What's makes this worse is that Yahoo really screwed up with their privacy, people lost data, and many lost the last hope for Yahoo. It doesn't work, it hasn't for a long time, and it sucks. Time to move to Gmail (also privacy issues but at least it works all the time).
     
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  17. seandavid55

    seandavid55 JDBA4L JDBA Official Member Brigade Member

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    Well crap. I still haven't "agreed". Yahoo has always been my go to email provider. Switching sucks. We will see what happens.
     
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  18. begreen61

    begreen61 Deadicated JDBA Official Member Brigade Member

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    take my rights away as they been doing behind my back ,,so they think but I refuse to say ok invade my privacy and the people i contact
     
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  19. Kelper

    Kelper Penguin Egg Eater Lady Devil

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    Gmail user..never seen something like that.. I left Yahoo a very long time ago.
     
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  20. ded i

    ded i Friend of The Devil Lady Devil

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    I've known for a long time that privacy is non existent. I have no plans to run for POTUS so we are all safe. :bwah: Once in a while I email or talk with aliens or dead people just to confuse the NSA. :yesman: Be happy! 'To live outside the law you must be honest.' ~
     
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