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small forged knife project (toothpick?)

hickory Oct 29, 2017

  1. hickory

    hickory JDBA OFFICIAL Member JDBA Official Member

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    forged a little knife. went to my buddy's pretty well-appointed (paradise to me) shop. I swung the 12lb sledge which apparently is my calling in life! it's nice to have found your purpose.
    made it from a jackhammer hammer spike.
    anything good about he forged. anything disproportionate or ugly I forged...but we thinned the bar out with huge sledge blows and I was in my glory.
    I look forward to the figuring, grinding, and then HT research. My toaster oven isn't big enough for tempering this!

    My buddy says "This is a rediculous knife!"
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  2. hickory

    hickory JDBA OFFICIAL Member JDBA Official Member

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    OAL 16 3/4", Blade length 11". I'm figuring? it is an S-series steel? Jim Hrisoulas says "Air Hammer Bits" are S-5 1600-1700, quench in oil, temper 350-450
    worth a shot. I'm going to try and harden the cutoff first to see what I'm working with here.
     
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  3. Clydetz

    Clydetz Forever straight and true Brigade Member

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    Looks like you've got a busy day ahead of you!
     
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  4. crogers

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    Are you planning on killing a cow to make a sheath? :bwah:
     
  5. hickory

    hickory JDBA OFFICIAL Member JDBA Official Member

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    Lots of work! Yep.
     
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    hickory JDBA OFFICIAL Member JDBA Official Member

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    Good question. It IS deer season...hmm... or maybe a dozen squirrels!
     
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  7. begreen61

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    I got to say Will, you have a lot of heart,,,I will say,, "no pun intended "..Keep it rolling ,,
     
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    Thanks that means a lot. The encouragement is super helpful. I have some handle-finishing to do and it's pretty much going to be done with a half round file and possibly a little dremel.
     
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    I think it's awesome what you've been doing. Keep sharing and keep it up!
     
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  10. hickory

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    The damn buy/sell knife forum here is aaaawesome! I gotta get some $$ if I'm going to get that carter neck knife, the JD bark river, etc etc.

    I've got my eyes on a better balisong now... Probably looking in the $100-200 range, if I can get a BM51, Kimura, or something I'll be pretty happy. I've got too much cool stuff at the moment so mama aint givin no new toys any love! ;)
     
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  11. begreen61

    begreen61 Deadicated JDBA Official Member Brigade Member

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    harbor freight has a little 1 inch belt sander for under 50.00 good starter ,, I had one ,, it shit to bed but did work for a while ,belts I was getting off the net some where .
     
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  12. hickory

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    Yeah you are right, I desperately need to take a trip to Harbor Freight. A belt grinder would be fantastic. I'm wanting/needing a little $15 angle grinder too. It's tricky to put in bevels on a bench grinder, I'm finding.
     
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  13. Jim L.

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    Draw your bevel lines with a sharpie and start them with the belt grinder. Tune the angles with a flat bastich (bastard file). Finish with a sanding block (I call it "hand grinding") starting with 50 grit working up to as high a grit as you want. Be careful of your center line along the edge.

    I start with the flats of the blade and handle before moving to the bevels. That helps me to set an even bevel angle. YMMV.

    AND don't leave us hanging, man. Give us pics. With such a great start, I'd love to see that knife's progress.
     
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  14. hickory

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    Thanks for the encouragement and detailed suggestions! I got out into the shop and puttered around tonight. I'm expecting to get some good work done on the knives this week. I have some good ideas as to what I have here to use for handle material. I am stuck on pin stock. I've got to buy epoxy yet. Once I have pin stock figured out, I can drill the holes. I am looking forward to heat treating. I got 5/6 gallons of bacon grease here at the ready - it weighs like 40 pounds! I was hoping to find some brass rod or something, thought I had some in the barn. I may end up using nails? It seems like steel would be a good, strong, pin material. I know some cats use stainless steel pins.
     
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    Bought some epoxy and brass rod pin stock. I found some hophornbeam/ironwood to use for handle scales! (screwed up making them though, I'll have to employ my carpenter buddy. I was pretty excited to get it closer to done so I started draw-filing it. I screwed it up something terrible now, with the gouges and roughness. It looks like I've got a bunch more grinding to do, then holes to drill...then heat treat and mounting the handle. I REALLY want to get it done and start using it!
    I'm sort of stalling because I'm hoping to get a belt grinder for Christmas. We'll see....
     
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    Pin stock is fairly easy to come by. The one I like to use is copper wire. I don't know/understand guage sizes so I go with the inch sizes of what matches my drill bits.

    I tend to use wire that is 1/8 to 1/4. This is wire that has usually been salvaged from different sources or some times (gasp) purchased out right.

    Other candidates for pin stock include brass/copper tubing, arrow shaft cut offs (sporting goods stores that trim up arrows are usually happy to to save them for you), aluminum rod, etc.

    The issue I have with steels, iron, nickel is how hard it is to keep it cool while grinding. I could be doing something wrong, I don't know. Non-ferrous materials are hard enough grinding/cooling with out burning the epoxy or handle material.

    That's me, YMMV
     
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  17. Jim L.

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    Hey, @hickory! Any updates on your toothpick?
     
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    Oh I do have some update pictures to post, looking back up through the thread.
     
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    I have to grow a pair of balls to drill the tang before heat treat.
    Or I can be lazy and keep it full-tang forged handle with no scales..
    Right now I'm sheet rocking the house and getting a second full time job before the baby comes lol.
     
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