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OG S.Q.A.T. (Stupid Question Amnesty Thread)

FL[!]P Sep 30, 2011

  1. FL[!]P

    FL[!]P Little member

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    See the post below, and pretend this one is not even here!
     
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  2. vileperson

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    The Stupid Question Amnesty Thread

    This is a thread meant for simple questions and simple responses, preferably links to educational resources. (quoting the question so it doesn't get confusing)

    Whether you're new to the balisong or not, at some point you have probably had a question that you thought was stupid and didn't really want to start a thread for it, and didn't want to hijack someone elses thread either. Questions about types of steel, washers bushings, blade shapes, abbreviations, etc.

    Here is your chance to claim "stupid question amnesty" and help others with the same question find educational content at the end of a quick search.

    Maybe it will work, get sticky'd, and prove to be a great resource. Maybe it will get buried with no activity whatsoever only to get necro'd 3 years from now, mocking it's failure. (in which case I will claim amnesty)
     
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  3. vileperson

    vileperson Enormous member

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    I'll start...

    I've seen FHM mentioned a few times. What is it? A company, a private builder, a design? I looked once but didn't find an answer.
     
  4. AnthonyTheAbyss

    AnthonyTheAbyss Godzilla Size Member JDBA Official Member

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    It's an acronym for "Filipino Hand Made". Matt Cook is the man if you're looking for a custom FHM.
     
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  5. Glenn

    Glenn Sol Invictus Knife Maker or Craftsman

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    FHM "Fuck Her Mother" , but only if she is a MILF.

    Glad to be of assistance. :thumbsup:
     
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  6. elusiveweasle

    elusiveweasle Brigade Member Brigade Member

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    You can also contact Jay at pinoysteel.com or Armand Palacio. Matt Cook is indeed the man, but custom knives of the caliber he makes are deservedly priced accordingly.
     
  7. Linos

    Linos baliholickydexbender JDBA Official Member Knife Maker or Craftsman

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    Ok since i got amnesty WTF is MILF?
     
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  8. elusiveweasle

    elusiveweasle Brigade Member Brigade Member

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    MILF- Mom I'd Like to Fuck
     
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  9. purpledc

    purpledc purple or blue, depends on the strength of your gr Brigade Member

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    On the subject of this thread. Is there any possible way we can merge this with the umpteen million dumb question threads all ready plaguing this forum? I think this would be a great resting place for all the VS. threads of knives that havent been released yet.




    And while I agree with this statement Matt Cook Is based in the US and while he makes many high quality knives in the style of FHM a true FHM is not a very high quality knife in most cases. And by my standards and that of many others a true FHM needs to be made in the Philippines by traditional methods.



    Both of these options can get you a genuine FHM. Armand Palacio also makes and sells his own custom knives that are more of a full on custom rather than an FHM. FHM knives usually use High carbon blades which steel have most likely been salvaged from the leaf spring of a now non functional or unlucky functional vehicle in the region. The handles are usually some form of softer metal such as aluminum or brass and the handles are U channel with bolsters of the same metal (but not always the same metal). Quite often a natural handle scale such as bone or horn are used. The quality can vary greatly and from what Ive heard the best knives ARE NOT sold at tourist locations and buying from the mentioned above is the easiest way to get something that wont end up in a trash can.
     
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  10. elusiveweasle

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    I think the bali's made for the tourist trade in the phillipines are not of the best quality, real batangas made by master blacksmith in the phillipines are of very high quality. They aren't made for flipping though. That was never the intention of bali's originally.
     
  11. KaOsBlAkBlAdE

    KaOsBlAkBlAdE Huge member JDBA Official Member

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    are batangas bali's always oriented with the latch on the safe handle??
     
  12. elusiveweasle

    elusiveweasle Brigade Member Brigade Member

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    The last one I bought had the latch on the bite handle. I've never had an antique one though.
     
  13. purpledc

    purpledc purple or blue, depends on the strength of your gr Brigade Member

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    thats a manilla style latch.
     
  14. krhen

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    Here's one maybe not so stupid. What does "Buyod" mean in relation to FHMs (great segway no?)

    Is it just a name, or does it have meaning in the language? Or is it maybe like "Bowie", referring to a creator or famous user of that style of blade? Just wondering what the root is.

    Google was no help. Guess I could drop Jay an email.
     
  15. purpledc

    purpledc purple or blue, depends on the strength of your gr Brigade Member

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    For the sake of not wanting to have an argument we will have to agree to disagree. Im willing to accept the term "very high quality" as a relative term in this situation. If we want to say very high quality in respects to knives made completely by hand without the aid of modern tools and materials then yes I think they do fine. And Im not a flipper so while I agree they arent trick knives or designed to be as such I really dont agree that they are "very high quality" when compared to modern balisongs made by modern methods with modern steels. Ive seen many Batangas knives and have owned many. I feel they are on the same quality level as handmade italian stilettos and even those vary greatly. Different strokes for different folks I guess.
     
  16. purpledc

    purpledc purple or blue, depends on the strength of your gr Brigade Member

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    He is the first person Ive seen use that term. But I can only assume he is refering to the blade style or the Filipino word for bowie. But I would be lying If I said that I was sure of it.
     
  17. elusiveweasle

    elusiveweasle Brigade Member Brigade Member

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    Jay would definitely be the one to ask. He is my resource on FHM's.
     
  18. Looseyfur

    Looseyfur OG Flipper JDBA Official Member Knife Maker or Craftsman

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    pretty much man.. matt makes a sort of "modern primitive" FHM which is really more an ode to the FHM styles and traditions with more modern materials and a custom makers skillset.

    that said I know matt personally and he is very involved in the Philippines hes not some sort of pretender his wife is from there, hes got family over there and has been pretty integrated into their culture and lifestyle for a long time, this is what I think gives him such good insight on the aesthetic of the FHM which co-mingles so well with the skills hes developed as a custom maker..

    a FHM is just that its a handmade balisong from the Philippines.
     
  19. purpledc

    purpledc purple or blue, depends on the strength of your gr Brigade Member

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    Yes please, When I said that I meant no disrespect to Matt. I think I have heard blips here and there about how much time he has spent over there and how he has learned the way they make knives. I think if you wanted an "fhm Style" knife yet you wanted it to really be a tool that was worth its salt Matt would be the man to make it. I was simply trying to get at the core definition of what an authentic FHM knife is as most people have come to know it as.
     
  20. senseicharles

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    As I understand it as a martial artist, early in the 40s and 50s (may have even been earlier than that I would guess) there were Philipino martial arts instructors who taught their students to use both latch types and the ones who worked with the Manila style had specific techniques such as a drop into an ice pick grip that was faster and worked well with that latch style. I can see the practical applications for both but I prefer Batangas myself.
     

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