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NFA Questions Answered

Mike Grasso Feb 11, 2015

  1. Carson

    Carson Rust Wizard Brigade Member

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    I contacted the NFA this morning.

    Form 4 Individual Submitted 12-14-15
    Form 3 approved 12-28-15
    Form 4 approved 3-10-15

    Now if my transferor will just get my approval papers, I can go pick it up! Seems like if the approver only has 30 days to send it out, they should arrive sometimes this week?

    *edit* apparently he received my paperwork about 10 days ago and lost my contact info.. was waiting on me to call. I'm going to head up there tomorrow and get it.
     
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  2. TheBadGuy

    TheBadGuy NATURE'S FINEST Super Moderator

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    Form 4 Trust

    Silencerco Octane 45K

    Submitted - 12/15/15
    Pending - 12/21/15
    Approved - 4/23/16
     
  3. TheBadGuy

    TheBadGuy NATURE'S FINEST Super Moderator

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    There is nothing like some free time at the workbench to fondle some goodness!!

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  4. TheBadGuy

    TheBadGuy NATURE'S FINEST Super Moderator

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    Woo hoo

    Form 4 Trust

    Rugged Obsidian 45

    Submitted - 1/4/16
    Pending - 1/12/16
    Approved - 5/20/16
     
  5. TheBadGuy

    TheBadGuy NATURE'S FINEST Super Moderator

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    I picked up my M92 Pap which is my next SBR project last night and my Rugged Obsidian showed today in the mail.

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  6. TopHat

    TopHat Drivin' that train..... Brigade Member

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    Has anyone submitted a Form 1 or Form 4 for a trust since the new Rule 41F came into effect?
     
  7. BenDibble

    BenDibble Resident Mortician JDBA Official Member Brigade Member

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  8. TheBadGuy

    TheBadGuy NATURE'S FINEST Super Moderator

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    There are two silencers I really really want now. The Silencerco Omega 9k and a YHM Nitro. I am trying to be patient and let all these post 41F submissions thin out over next month or two before I submit. My dealer has his own fingerprint photo system going and when he comes to my local gun show in October I plan to get at least one of these going.
     
  9. TopHat

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    My understanding is the ATF stopped allowing e-file at this time due to the need to submit fingerprint cards and photos. Is this still the case?
     
  10. Mike Grasso

    Mike Grasso "to protect and to serve" Super Moderator Brigade Member

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    Yes Sir...
     
  11. TopHat

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    Thanks Mike.


    I will be converting one of these:

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  12. TheBadGuy

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    Eforms no longer has the form 1 option. Honestly, I would paper submit now even if it did. With paper filing if you make an error you will receive a letter allowing for corrections to your submission vs your eform being declining and being forced to resubmit and restart your wait. In addition since there is no real benefit time wise on paper filing vs eform (if it was still available) I'd prefer a real stamp. I want to SBR a CZ Bren 805 and a IWI Galil Ace someday soon. I want the post 41f rush to process through though. I don't have the patience for the wait time the way they are. I have 3 form 1s pending and the wait sucks so bad lol
     
  13. TopHat

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    Does anyone know what happens if you are denied due to an improperly completed form (such as what happened to Ben and his wrong model listing) now that ATF doesn't do e-file?

    Do you have to re-start the waiting process or do they let you jump the line when you re-submit the corrected form?
     
  14. BenDibble

    BenDibble Resident Mortician JDBA Official Member Brigade Member

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    I have heard they will mail you a letter and allow you to correct the mistake while keeping the same initial form and spot in line.
     
  15. TopHat

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    I love you, Ben....really I do.... :jdwink2:


    I think I fucked up the caliber by putting 5.56 x 45 mm, instead of 5.56MM, trying to be as accurate as possible.
     
  16. BenDibble

    BenDibble Resident Mortician JDBA Official Member Brigade Member

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    It also seems to depend on which examiner you get. Some of them will make the change for you and let you know, while others will deny or suspend and make you change it yourself.

    I would hope that a minor caliber naming convention wouldn't cause a denial. Just hope you don't get Jesse Huff. He seems to be the real hardass.

    Ted Clutter I think is the lead, and he is great.
     
  17. TopHat

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    I emailed Ted Clutter asking him if it would trigger a denial. I also asked if there was a way to submit a corrected form before the denial came down.
     
  18. TheBadGuy

    TheBadGuy NATURE'S FINEST Super Moderator

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    Yeah I wish I knew 3 months ago what I know now and that is that if you paper file they send you a correction letter as opposed to a denial and a refund if you efile. I had a bad string of 2 denied form 1s and had to restart my wait on both due to bullshit model number errors. Fuck that drop down box :bwah:
     
  19. TopHat

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    Funny thing is that I mailed the packet on Friday and ATF had it on the following Monday and the check was cashed on Monday (ACH draft). I don't think it really took any longer to mail the papers than if I had e-filed.
     
  20. TheBadGuy

    TheBadGuy NATURE'S FINEST Super Moderator

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    I just ordered a CZ Bren 805 pistol. This will be both my first post 41f submission as well as my first paper filed form 1. I hope the wait isn't getting too crazy. I have 3 SBRs pending now all from June. I'm hoping those three will all be back approved by Christmas and this one back around February/March
     

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