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Hardest Production Knives to Acquire

fluKeKe Oct 23, 2011

  1. fluKeKe

    fluKeKe To live & die on JD

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    Well being an aspiring flipper/collector ( I put it like this because I plan to flip all knifes I own at some point). I am just wondering what are the hardest knives to find these days? Lets try and keep the knives to PRODUCTION knives since we all know how long of a wait it can be for the top custom builders.
     
  2. Baliguy

    Baliguy Huge member

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    Most of the higher quality production balisongs are getting harder and harder to find. Mainly because most are no longer made and also because people that do own them don't want to sell them.

    Are you using peoples suggestions as a shopping list of balisong to be on the look out for?
    Arc Angel
    Any of the 4X series
    Microtech balisongs
    etc...
     
  3. fluKeKe

    fluKeKe To live & die on JD

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    Not really using this as a shopping list because my tastes in balisongs will differ from everyone else's.

    Just seems like I got into the game after most of the top quality production knives got discontinued. So I am wondering what other collectors / flippers found the hardest to acquire.
     
  4. calvinnation

    calvinnation Down For Life

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    All Variations (Damascus, inlays, Gold Class, etc)

    Older Pacific Cutlery models

    Arc Angel
    Spyderfly
    Rainbowfly
    Older smallfly's
     
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    Microtech Tachyon
    Dragonfly
    Swampfly?
     
  6. CDR_Glock

    CDR_Glock Bali Demon JDBA Official Member Brigade Member

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    All of the above are easy to find. Finding them reasonably priced is a different story.

    I have all of these (or had them). The hardest DESIRABLE BALIS to find:

    Benchmade (Top 3 hardest to find are VERY hard to find):
    42-400
    43-401
    49-Special, 49-01
    48 - Only a two year run
    46DM, 43DM or any DM, really
    Other 49-0x
    MC's are harder to find but not impossible. The 47MC eludes me.
    Benchmade Pre-Production or Prototypes
    BLK are not easy to find but not exactly desirable
    4x-01 are impossible to find

    Spyderco:
    Szabofly Collector's edition, VG10
    Stainless Smallfly

    Usual Suspects Network (USN Balisong model 42).

    Microtech Tachyon: Non-serrated (NONTACHYONS ARE SHIT).

    Pacific Cutlery and Bali-Song:
    Jody Samson Weehawk Tanto
    Jody Samson Brass Balisongs
    5" Balisongs
    Kris
    Mammoth Ivory inserts

    SWAT Balisong

    Through networking or other channels, they CAN be found. Not easy and NOT CHEAP!

    I understand some grail Balisongs are like Rare Postage Stamps. Of course if there's historical significance, I wouldn't flip it. BUT I wouldn't buy it either. Why buy something to stow away. Just stow away your money and use it if you needed it. Unless you bought it for $100, a $2000 knife stowed is a waste. Keep in mind, I only started collecting August 2010. Philosophies vary greatly. This is just my opinion.
     
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  7. Raoul Duke

    Raoul Duke Completely out of fucks to give Brigade Member

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    I wouldn't have thought any of those below you mentioned are hard to find...You will see all of those on this forum from time to time...

    41
    43
    44
    45
    46
    47
    48
    49
    40t
    31
    Older Pacific Cutlery models
    Arc Angel
    Spyderfly
    Rainbowfly
    Older smallfly's

    BUT...it is hard to buy all of them for the average guy....now thats hard...or you have to have deep pockets.

    I would say if you had $10000 you could get all of them pretty quickly...

    If you had even more cheese more you could get different variations of them all...


    ETA...CDR beat me too it...Its the certain vertions of those thats hard....Start by trying to get a 42MC over a 42...thats the difference....from there on it it only gets harder...or more expensive...I think luck or right place right time and an interest helps...
     
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  8. fluKeKe

    fluKeKe To live & die on JD

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    I agree with you here. I'm not into safe queens..if I own it...it will be flipped at some point
     
  9. CDR_Glock

    CDR_Glock Bali Demon JDBA Official Member Brigade Member

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    As it should be.

    If I could find a 42-401 for $800. I'd flip it.
     
  10. silkworm

    silkworm Silky Devil JDBA Official Member

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    In my experience the hardest regular production Benchmade to find was the 48. I found it as rare as say a 43-401. If you're willing to pay a premium most BMs are not that hard to find. Before the discontinuation of the 42 most BM balis were readily available, you just needed to ask around. There are a lot of new balisong collectors now who are not moving their knives and the guys who collect regular folders and fixed blades are not moving their balis cause they're worth so much now.

    The most elusive for me these days is the Microtech Desertfly. I'd throw the Swampfly in there but I know where to get one but I'm not willing to pay for it.

    Some more rare birds would be the SWATS and the Cold Steel wide clip.

    Part of the challenge of creating a good collection is not finding yourself in the poor house at the end.
     
  11. Linos

    Linos baliholickydexbender JDBA Official Member Knife Maker or Craftsman

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    ...the one i don`t see often for sale...actually almost never is the Tachyon followed by all the Flys of same co,
    i would also throw in the 80`s Taylors, Frosts, Bears, sekis(?) and what not for the simple reason people use to flip the shit out of them `cos they were so cheap.....yours truly been guilty of that...too...
     
  12. gza

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    Not everbody has a doctor's salary.

    Some of us know we will probably have to sell our knives at some point. I already have my own go-to flippers and feel no need to devalue every "expensive" knife that I own or that passes through my hands.

    Just my 2 cents, no animosity intended.
     
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  13. Linos

    Linos baliholickydexbender JDBA Official Member Knife Maker or Craftsman

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    i agree 100% if any of these guys ever come(God forbid)to a situation to sell their collection they will bang their heads on anything concrete soon as they found how much they have devalued their knives...speaking from experience ;) (lost boxes and shit for me not flipping)
     
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  14. CDR_Glock

    CDR_Glock Bali Demon JDBA Official Member Brigade Member

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    none taken.

    Not everyone can delay instant gratification for 13 years of school/training (4 years college, 4 years medical school, 5 years of residency training in radiology, and thousands of dollars on tuition, books, and supplies), either. Remember my last Balisong I got was when I was 14. My second Balisong...26 years later.:devil1: I remember a post of a college student asking for a knife some time ago. I was like," I did without, you can, too."

    By the way, most doctors don't have a high salary, either. Only the subspecialists. Many ITs, engineers, and programmers can make more than a primary care doc.
     
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  15. gza

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    Should have taken it to the other end of the spectrum to begin with. :ssmile: Some of us work our tails off at multiple jobs for (near) minimum wage. The hours come and go and for me, risk dwarfs reward when it comes to flipping my knives. So I like to have a trump card (or a few) stowed away for when times get tough. We're all living life at different paces, as they say, different strokes for different folks.
     
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  16. Ryanol

    Ryanol SnarkMasterFunkyFresh JDBA Official Member

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    I fall in the flip it or EDC it camp...don't see the point of buying as an investment but oh well different strokes for different folks.

    but IMHO 42's and AA's are fairly common...it's getting one for a decent price that takes a lot of patience and being able to move quickly. Paying over three hundred bones for these knives seems crazy to me.
     
  17. papercut

    papercut KILLACANE JDBA Official Member

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    I don't know guy's, I am of the mind that if I buy something it is because I want it for use. Why want something that you will not use for it's intended purpose.
    Shit I bought my wife a Louis Vitton purse a couple of years ago and she left it in the closet for a year. I told her she better start using the fucking thing before I throw it out.
    I am not saying abuse shit. Just use and maintain.
     
  18. fluKeKe

    fluKeKe To live & die on JD

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    I understand what most of you are saying with the investments and such when it comes to high price balisongs. My solution for this is not to purchase a knife worthy of being a "safe queen" I plan to build my collection out of knifes that are ment to be flipped...with the creation of BRS and many custom builders I see a increase in these types of knives in the future
     
  19. Chris_Himself

    Chris_Himself Bay Area Devil Alliance

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    As a college student, you're kind of an inspiration since I'm probably gonna turn my salary into knives too haha
     
  20. CDR_Glock

    CDR_Glock Bali Demon JDBA Official Member Brigade Member

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    This is just hobby money. Some people like to buy fancy cars. Some like boats. Some like guns. Some like hookers. I like knives.
     

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