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Cap & Ball Revolvers

SZiehr May 10, 2010

  1. SZiehr

    SZiehr Better than gold or platinum

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    Whose into them? I'm considering picking up a steel frame, either a 1858 Remington or 1860 Colt. I really like the idea of picking up one of the R&D conversion cylinders to shoot .45 ACP out of it.
     
  2. hangtime

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    Lotsa fun . . .

    I don't have anything that is a convertible but a .36 cal. Colt Navy is one of the finest handling revolvers you'll ever pick up. Also you don't spend a fortune on powder and shot to have a fun range session.
     
  3. Stabber

    Stabber Stabber's Steel Connection Knife Maker or Craftsman

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    what most people don't realize with these is that once loaded it is a pistol and you NEED a pistol permit to have/shoot it.
     
  4. fishmonger

    fishmonger FishDevil

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    I had a Colt Navy, Army and Ruger old army all were good fun !! remember to grease those cylinders.....:devilzeek
     
  5. El Gringo

    El Gringo dashing devil

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    As a matter of fact I have both of the ones you mention:devil1:
    Mine are made by Pietta. If you watch for sales at Cabelas you can catch them at about $200. (I think)
    I first got the 1860 then a couple months later the '58 went on sale.

    I just shoot powder and ball. Started with .451 but found the '58 likes .454 so I'm gonna stick with those for both.

    (I'll try and get a pic of my babies up tonight.)

    If you have any questions about powder charges, caps and cappers and such just ask.:ssmile:
     
  6. RXX

    RXX Hellbilly Deluxe Brigade Member

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    I should have my ass kicked for not picking up at least one Colt when I worked as a pawnbroker.

    Anyway, I do have a Traditions steel frame 1851 .44 purchased in 1994. Never shot it. Still in the box. I need to shoot it one day. Think it was about $150 from a Gander Mt catalog.
     
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  7. BruceB

    BruceB Huge member

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    Things of beauty

    There are a few things in this ugly world that make me happy when I look at them. Some are red headed ladies, Golden Retrievers, Pennsylvania/Kentucky rifles, Jaguar cars (120s), Vincent Black Shadow bikes and Colt percussion pistols (Navies, Armies) and Army Single Actions.) The Navy is probably the most lovely of the percussions and I love the fact that Wild Bill Hickock carried a pair.
     
  8. El Gringo

    El Gringo dashing devil

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    I know the Rem '58 is popular for conversion cylinders. You mention wanting to shoot .45ACP; but I thought they were for .45 Long Colt and need to be black powder loads with soft lead bullets. Honestly I never did any research on them...I just shoot mine 'old school'.

    Anyway here's my babies.:devil1:
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  9. BlueSkyJaunte

    BlueSkyJaunte waster of perfectly good steel

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    What the hell's a pistol permit?
     
  10. El Gringo

    El Gringo dashing devil

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    Permit?...I dont need no stinking permit.:madaddy:
     
  11. DaBird

    DaBird Sasquatch Bali-ho

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    These are the only two BP firearms I own, a pair of engraved Marshalls in .44.
    They are a BLAST TO SHOOT but a mite slow on the reload :devil1:
    The blade is a Larry Harley Paragon " Battle Bowie".
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  12. Zero Gravitas

    Zero Gravitas Huge member

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    Ummm, that does apply here, in this small European country on the east coast of the United States, but not in the free world.
     
  13. 50calmike

    50calmike 50 caliber Devil

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    He lives in Colorado, where the mostly free men roam. Even Maryland isn't that bad. But I do believe that may come here next.

    I have one of the Italian repro 58s in brass, I really like shooting it. I don't like cleaning or loading it though.:bwah:
     
  14. SZiehr

    SZiehr Better than gold or platinum

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    I almost forgot about this post. Yes, I live in a state that understands gun ownership is a right and I do not need a permit to own it, just to carry concealed. Also, a BP pistol with the conversion cylinder is STILL considered a BP unless you alter the gun itself, such as filing a loading port. After you do that, it becomes subject to the gun control act of 1968. You can use smokeless loads with the conversion cylinder in them, as long as the gun has a steel frame and you stick to BP equivalent loads. That means lead only at < 800fps, which includes a lot of .45 ACP ammo. The only reason I was thinking of ACP over .45 Colt is the ammo cost. It would be nice to have some clean ammo to shoot, plus, it would be adequate for home protection. I wouldn't feel safe leaving a BP pistol laying around loaded!

    I actually prefer the look of the Colt, but if I do convert it, the Remmy is a stronger design with the top strap.

    Oh yeah, if any of you happen to have one laying around you want to swap off, PM me.
     
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  15. SZiehr

    SZiehr Better than gold or platinum

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    Beautiful guns there DaBird!
     
  16. edosmar

    edosmar Average member

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    A .45ACP does not have a rimmed case and you will have a problem loading them in a .45 Colt cylinder. if you reload there is now .45cowboy brass, it is the same length as the .45ACP. The only reason to use it is in downloading the .45 Colt, with less space in the case you get more consistent groups when using modern smokeless powder.
     
  17. SZiehr

    SZiehr Better than gold or platinum

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    Sorry, I should have specified, I can get a cylinder for .45 Colt OR I can get a cylinder chambered for .45 ACP.
     
  18. SZiehr

    SZiehr Better than gold or platinum

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    DaBird - do you know if the Marshalls are made by Uberti?
     
  19. DaBird

    DaBird Sasquatch Bali-ho

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