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    Fat Cats Pay More!

    From personal experience on a flight a couple of years ago from Houston to L.A., I can tell you that seated next to an obese person on an airliner is no fun. It wasn't a pretty sight, nor a pleasant experience as I had to dig under flabs of overhanging stomach from the woman seated next to me to find my seat belt. I found it with some embarrassment on the part of my fellow passenger and my self. Now I am not small, 6'2", 230lbs, but I can stay between the armrests, my fellow passenger couldn't. After take off, I got up and told the flight attendant very diplomatically to find myself another seat or find the other passenger two or I would be standing in the aisle for the duration of the trip. They found the lady a seat next to a small child.

    Here is United's answer.

    http://www.latimes.com/business/la-f...,3361939.story


    United Airlines could require obese passengers to buy a second ticket
    Under a new United policy, if flight attendants can't find two open coach seats together, large passengers must buy a second seat, upgrade to business class -- or even get bumped.
    By Julie Johnsson
    April 16, 2009
    As the nation copes with increasing numbers of obese Americans, United Airlines has joined the list of air carriers making overweight passengers pay more to fly.

    As of Wednesday, passengers too large to fit comfortably in a coach seat may be required to buy a second ticket or upgrade to business class, where seats are larger -- if United's flight attendants can't find two open seats for them.

    The carrier, whose parent company is Chicago-based UAL Corp., said it decided to adopt the tougher policy after receiving more than 700 complaints last year from passengers "who did not have a comfortable flight because the person next to them infringed on their seat," spokeswoman Robin Urbanski said.

    How to accommodate severely overweight passengers is an issue that has long rankled air travelers. Issues of weight and seat proximity have become more sensitive in recent years as airlines narrow seat widths and flights have become fuller.

    But as airlines adopt or toughen policies for obese passengers, some question how they can enforce such measures fairly.

    "How do you eyeball someone and decide they're not going to fit?" said aviation consultant Robert Mann, president of R.W. Mann & Co. "From a knees-to-seat-back perspective, I don't fit. I'm 6 feet, 4 inches.

    "It's reached the point where it's essentially impossible to sit in coach and have the person in front of you recline."

    Southwest Airlines requires passengers who can't comfortably lower their armrests to purchase tickets for two adjacent seats. Southwest will refund the cost of the second seat if a flight isn't sold out.

    Although the policy has been on Southwest Airlines Co.'s books for a quarter of a century, the low-fare carrier faced a backlash when it reminded consumers of its standards for larger passengers in 2002, as Southwest switched from plastic boarding cards to electronic tickets.

    Southwest still gets plenty of mail on the issue, spokeswoman Brandy King said. But the upset customers are likelier to be passengers who believe they didn't have enough room on a flight.

    United's flight attendants, who will have the delicate task of enforcing the new policy, have traditionally sought to accommodate, free of charge, passengers who spill over their seats. That hasn't changed.

    "We'll first try to re-accommodate you on another seat on the flight," Urbanski said. "If the flight is full, and that's not often the case these days, you'll be bumped from the flight." If this occurs, passengers will be forced to find a flight with open seating, buy two seats or pay for an upgrade to a class of service with wide seats.

    United, the nation's third-largest carrier, said it would waive fees normally charged for changing travel plans. If seating is not available and a passenger decides not to travel, the ticket will be refunded without any penalty, even if it is a nonrefundable ticket.
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    How to accommodate severely overweight passengers is an issue that has long rankled air travelers. Issues of weight and seat proximity have become more sensitive in recent years as airlines narrow seat widths and flights have become fuller.

    It's not just the seats getting narrower.

    About every other week we see evidence that America is getting chubbier.

    And I manage to fit into my space nicely, thank you. I also do not recline past the first notch, out of courtesy for my fellow passengers behind me.

    The notation about reclining the seats is one of my pet peeves - a simple solution would be to simply have the seats stop reclining at the current first notch. I don't tolerate the seat in front of me being completely reclined. It literally gets in my face, I cannot access my tray, getting out of the seat for the restroom is difficult and generally speaking the person reclining does not look backwards first.

    I suspect a conversation with the stew will sort it out if the person in front fails to listen to reason.
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    About time.

    They have a measuring gauge for your bags... so now they should introduce a measuring gauge for butts.

    If it doesn't fit... your not gettin on it.

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    2 solutions I see:
    1: Just have a fucking scale at the counter... simply marked off in "1 seat" and "2 seat". Maybe add a "3 seat" for some of em. BIG FUCKING NEON READOUT.

    2: narrow doorways. If you can't fucking fit through the doorway you ain't getting on the plane. Just make the doors as wide as the seats (measured from inside of the armrest to inside of the armrest)
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    At 6'4'' and around 220lbs i'm not small but I can fit into a seat, just. If I have to pay for excess weight in my baggage then there should be a maximum weight limit for passengers, unless due to a medical condition. If you get your weight above that limit then pay up and that goes for the bodybuilder types to. It was a conscious decision on your part so take the good with the bad.

    The one thing that gets me is the leg room. I've got a 36 and 1/2 inside leg and by the time I get off a flight it feels like someone has kneecapped me.

    I bet Ryanair are the first to try maximum weight for passengers fi this is anything to go by:
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/travel/tr...oilet-use.html

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    we can just chop 6" off your legs, just above the knees
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    Quote Originally Posted by tmickley
    He does a good job. Better than average. Hell better than I've since I remember. I tip him 2 bucks. I'm a big spender that way. I may be back and ask for Tony or what ever the fuck his name was....
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    I had an overweight man get testy with me once because I politely asked him to shift off me a bit, since even with my arm in my lap I was rubbing elbows with flab. His response was something along the lines of "You're slim, you don't need the whole seat." and ignored me. Fortunately the flight attendant heard this exchange, and moved the man to "his very own row". Far back of the plane, right in front of the lavatory (which I heard him loudly protesting that he couldn't fit into).

    I had a $10 Starbucks giftcard in my wallet, which I handed to her with effusive thanks.

    I know that obesity is a tough thing to deal with, whether you made your own bed or not, but be realistic about it, please. Whatever made you big, it doesn't matter, nor does it entitle you to your own seat plus half of mine.

    I always turn around and ask if it's ok if I recline. Ever since a jerk reclined his seat without asking me, which made a mess of the soda I was in the process of pouring. He turned around, snorted, then proceeded to bounce around in his seat, making himself comfortable. Ass.

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    too bad you didn't have a brick in your purse;coulda made him real comfy,real quick,without all the bouncing around...

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    Quote Originally Posted by RoyalM View Post
    At 6'4'' and around 220lbs i'm not small but I can fit into a seat, just. If I have to pay for excess weight in my baggage then there should be a maximum weight limit for passengers, unless due to a medical condition. If you get your weight above that limit then pay up and that goes for the bodybuilder types to. It was a conscious decision on your part so take the good with the bad.

    The one thing that gets me is the leg room. I've got a 36 and 1/2 inside leg and by the time I get off a flight it feels like someone has kneecapped me.

    I bet Ryanair are the first to try maximum weight for passengers fi this is anything to go by:
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/travel/tr...oilet-use.html
    I'm also that tall, and I HATE to fly for that and other reasons. I might buy two tickets, if they could remove the seat in front of me...and keep the little bottles of booze coming...
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    While we are ragging on airlines and passengers, what's with some airlines giving free drinks and others charging for those tiny doses of plastic tasting booze? Or, the passengers that want me to turn down MY air or close the shade on the window that I am looking out? Or, bring on so much carry on shit that there is no room left in the over head for my one bag?
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    Just curious, anyone know where I can find one of those things which prevents the seat in front of you from reclining? It was sorta like a "club" for airline seats.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Parker View Post
    Just curious, anyone know where I can find one of those things which prevents the seat in front of you from reclining? It was sorta like a "club" for airline seats.
    Really?... such a thing exists?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Parker View Post
    Just curious, anyone know where I can find one of those things which prevents the seat in front of you from reclining? It was sorta like a "club" for airline seats.
    I just imagine the cute hostess (hard to find these days) do me and my anti-reclining bar raises automatically.

    BTW - I don't mind someone reclining the seat in front of me and you can be damned sure that I will recline mine and try to get some shut eye on a long flight!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ironwolf View Post
    too bad you didn't have a brick in your purse;coulda made him real comfy,real quick,without all the bouncing around...
    I might've secretly wished for a rag with chloroform...but I doubt I could've lifted his ass to stuff it into the overhead bin like I really wanted to...

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