Kiershaw blur ? The best budget spring assisted knife ?

[rickymtz]

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[spydusse]

I love my cpm154 blur but that new cryo at 30 bucks is one hell of a good deal

[Chris_Himself]

For not too much more you can have the Benchmade Barrage.

It costs a little bit more but it's a very good knife to have and Benchmade does a good knife for the money.

I actually am anti-Kershaw, but that didn't have a say in my recommendation.

[accurate]

I love my cpm154 blur but that new cryo at 30 bucks is one hell of a good deal

Blurs for $30? Please send me a link! I have several Blurs, and at $30a pop I wouldn't mind having a couple more of them. They (Kershaw) are my go to work knives lately, they have a lot of nice EDC designs for not a lot of money.

[Chris_Himself]

Blurs for $30? Please send me a link! I have several Blurs, and at $30a pop I wouldn't mind having a couple more of them. They (Kershaw) are my go to work knives lately, they have a lot of nice EDC designs for not a lot of money.

The Cryo is $30, not the Blur

[Tony8179]

Curious as to why you are anti Kershaw, Chris?

[Chris_Himself]

Curious as to why you are anti Kershaw, Chris?

Well first off, it's merely my opinion, so I just don't want to get flamed over answering your question.

Kershaw builds knives that work yes, but if you can get past the fact that their knives are sharp and they work, they fall short on a lot of their promises to the people who do more than just buy knives and cut stuff.. the honest to goodness collectors.

Knives I've ordered but never was able to get, or waited to long to care:
Kershaw Cryo
Volt 3600 (they only completed half of the 500 sprint), the rest are for sale for 2-3x the price
ZT0560
ZT0550
ZT0303
Echelon
Knockout
Piston
Spec Bump (the high end Ken Onion Kershaw)
many, many more

They don't put a priority on American labor, meanwhile Spyderco does the cheap knives to introduce people to their higher end stuff and do special products that aren't intended as their bread and butter, and Benchmade dropped their entire Red Class altogether because they didn't feel it deserved to wear the Benchmade name.

Ok so Zero Tolerance is their premium brand that is US-made and duty tough and all that stuff. Well when was the last time anybody in the field could afford to wait in excess of six months beyond promised on a knife? Are you building the knives for the market, or are you building them for the people who actually need them? You order a Rick Hinderer mid-tech, I shit you not, 3 weeks within a 48 hour margin all 3 times.

They just built a brand new facility to keep up with demand.. I don't see the knives they said they were going to do January 2011.

Ever see the Microtech Whaleshark and Matrix? Looks like the 0777 right? Thats what happens when you don't get things done and you let good ideas marinate for too long. MT is run by scumbags, but they get shit done. Warranty sucks? I've never had to use it so I wouldn't know.

I'm sincerely apologize that my argument comes across as messy and not properly organized. I used to be a dedicated customer who just had enough one day. Their knives are good, service is solid, and Thomas W is a good man. Their business just doesn't work for me since my knife collecting goes beyond having a knife that cuts and getting free clips every now and then.

This isn't intended to take away any enjoyment you guys have for the knives and the brand AT ALL. It's the same reason I don't go into the Emerson and Strider forums and shit on everybody's parade either.

It deserves it's own thread though or at least throw it into the field or something so we can openly discuss this. Feel free to PM me Tony, it's it's own knife discussion in itself that I don't feel comfortable going any further in public about. I'm not out to defame anybody that hasn't actually screwed me out of time and money.

[spydusse]

The Cryo is $30, not the Blur

Thats what i meant and they can still be had on Amazon they are still in stock

[Tony8179]

Well first off, it's merely my opinion, so I just don't want to get flamed over answering your question.

Kershaw builds knives that work yes, but if you can get past the fact that their knives are sharp and they work, they fall short on a lot of their promises to the people who do more than just buy knives and cut stuff.. the honest to goodness collectors.

Knives I've ordered but never was able to get, or waited to long to care:
Kershaw Cryo
Volt 3600 (they only completed half of the 500 sprint), the rest are for sale for 2-3x the price
ZT0560
ZT0550
ZT0303
Echelon
Knockout
Piston
Spec Bump (the high end Ken Onion Kershaw)
many, many more

They don't put a priority on American labor, meanwhile Spyderco does the cheap knives to introduce people to their higher end stuff and do special products that aren't intended as their bread and butter, and Benchmade dropped their entire Red Class altogether because they didn't feel it deserved to wear the Benchmade name.

Ok so Zero Tolerance is their premium brand that is US-made and duty tough and all that stuff. Well when was the last time anybody in the field could afford to wait in excess of six months beyond promised on a knife? Are you building the knives for the market, or are you building them for the people who actually need them? You order a Rick Hinderer mid-tech, I shit you not, 3 weeks within a 48 hour margin all 3 times.

They just built a brand new facility to keep up with demand.. I don't see the knives they said they were going to do January 2011.

Ever see the Microtech Whaleshark and Matrix? Looks like the 0777 right? Thats what happens when you don't get things done and you let good ideas marinate for too long. MT is run by scumbags, but they get shit done. Warranty sucks? I've never had to use it so I wouldn't know.

I'm sincerely apologize that my argument comes across as messy and not properly organized. I used to be a dedicated customer who just had enough one day. Their knives are good, service is solid, and Thomas W is a good man. Their business just doesn't work for me since my knife collecting goes beyond having a knife that cuts and getting free clips every now and then.

This isn't intended to take away any enjoyment you guys have for the knives and the brand AT ALL. It's the same reason I don't go into the Emerson and Strider forums and shit on everybody's parade either.

It deserves it's own thread though or at least throw it into the field or something so we can openly discuss this. Feel free to PM me Tony, it's it's own knife discussion in itself that I don't feel comfortable going any further in public about. I'm not out to defame anybody that hasn't actually screwed me out of time and money.

Hey, to each their own. I was just curious because I've never really heard anyone have anything bad to say about Kershaw. I've been able to get my hands on the knives from Kershaw and ZT that I've really wanted through preorders and I've never minded the wait.

I like playing video games and a lot of companies release title information years before a game is released so I guess I'm used to waiting for the things I want. I've noticed that patience is not a virtue that knife community holds. Everyone seems to want everything right now.

I believe that Kershaw predominantly produces lower cost knives for the masses. They do produce very small numbers of higher end knives for the collectors and I've always enjoyed collecting them. You've got to really pay attention to when new products are announced and get on a preorder list as fast as you possibly can with a good dealer. Most of Zero Tolerance's line is full production with a few variants produced at lower numbers. I haven't had an issue getting the ZT's I've wanted either. Trying to find something like the Cryo, 0560, 0561, Echelon, Knockout, or Piston without a preorder when they are first released is next to impossible. It's all about paying attention and preordering when it comes to the sought after Kershaws and ZTs.

Just a side note, you say that Hinderer delivers his Midtechs within 3 weeks. C'mon, we all know that you have to be a first responder for this type of service. I was trying to buy an XM-18 for my brother in law who is a NY State Trooper and I did not receive a response after sending 6 emails. In two of the emails I explained that I would supply them with his full name and badge number if they needed to check out his credentials. I never got response and gave up.

[spydusse]

[mag1]

Here is what my S30v Blur can do, LOL, brought it on my honeymoon


http://youtu.be/Hp8OOYhd1m4

[Chris_Himself]

Hey, to each their own. I was just curious because I've never really heard anyone have anything bad to say about Kershaw. I've been able to get my hands on the knives from Kershaw and ZT that I've really wanted through preorders and I've never minded the wait.

I like playing video games and a lot of companies release title information years before a game is released so I guess I'm used to waiting for the things I want. I've noticed that patience is not a virtue that knife community holds. Everyone seems to want everything right now.

I believe that Kershaw predominantly produces lower cost knives for the masses. They do produce very small numbers of higher end knives for the collectors and I've always enjoyed collecting them. You've got to really pay attention to when new products are announced and get on a preorder list as fast as you possibly can with a good dealer. Most of Zero Tolerance's line is full production with a few variants produced at lower numbers. I haven't had an issue getting the ZT's I've wanted either. Trying to find something like the Cryo, 0560, 0561, Echelon, Knockout, or Piston without a preorder when they are first released is next to impossible. It's all about paying attention and preordering when it comes to the sought after Kershaws and ZTs.

Just a side note, you say that Hinderer delivers his Midtechs within 3 weeks. C'mon, we all know that you have to be a first responder for this type of service. I was trying to buy an XM-18 for my brother in law who is a NY State Trooper and I did not receive a response after sending 6 emails. In two of the emails I explained that I would supply them with his full name and badge number if they needed to check out his credentials. I never got response and gave up.

Well it's like, these dealers take real pre-order money for the knives just to never end up showing up. I sound very petty, but at the core I just need to be doing business with a company that stands behind it's commitments. Like I said, some people actually NEED this stuff. I never ended up buying an 0560 for myself because of the several Hinderers I got in the time it ever came out. This is back when I had like no money either, I had just saved up so much money from not buying knives waiting for the damn thing that I suddenly had enough one day.

As for the Hinderer thing, we need to get in touch. Rob has been a gentleman and a professional to deal with the entire time I know him. I'm not even an "everyday hero" I guess I was just an exception the entire time I was ordering from him. It's always been 2-3 weeks from payment til completion and when those guys set out to do work, they work hard.

Usually I'm very patient. I'm waiting on a 10 piece order balisong order right now from a custom maker that I ordered in March. Not once have I asked where my knives were, yet the entire time he has kept me up to date on what is done and what is not. I get that it's a custom maker, but we're talking about a knife company that has an entire department for relaying information to the forums.

It is what it is, there is plenty of other stuff out there to buy and discuss, I'm not out to ruin anything for anybody.

[Doc Pringles]

The rubber like scales are pocket shreaders. The locking liner makes me nervous. But in reality I’ve owned at least 7 or 8 various models through the years and never had a lock problem. I did come to the conclusion that for a few dollars more I'm able to buy a number of knives I'm more comfortable with.

I still have a 2 or 3 blurs because I would purchase Kershaw Blems. The standard model was $25-$30 and $35 for the OD CPM154. The key to buying blems is tearing the knife down to the last screw and cleaning it up.

It's a cool knife for what it is.

[seven1niner]

My only Blur and I'm keeping it. CPM154 steel and anodized purple handle.