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    Quote Originally Posted by OneOneBravo View Post
    I know little about making knives..
    Then stop, listen, and learn.

    Once too often a new maker hits the door and takes a nose dive here at the JD due to attitude .

    Give respect, get respect.

    You can learn a lot here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OneOneBravo View Post
    You folks keep saying I said stuff I did not say. I can't argue with that. You win. All I wanted to do was make knives for the front line grunt that would be there to save his life if needed.

    "you've stated that you know more than anyone here about making knives for killing folks."

    I never said that. NEVER! I know little about making knives. I know a lot about what type of design it will take to do a necessary job on the battlefield. I wish I knew what you guys knew. I felt I needed to defend myself from your very first post. So yes, I repeated the same line over and over again. I apologize for any ruffled feathers. I wont be coming back to your forum. It was a poor decision on my part. Have a good night. Sorry Lon. I don't think I'll be going to very many knife shows anymore. I really don't want to meet these people.

    PS: M.Olexey. I learned how to make my bolt on knife handles from a tutorial you wrote. I had a lot of admiration for your work.
    Glad the tutorial helped. Thanks.


    I may have paraphrased a bit but yes, many times in this thread, you stated that most of us here did not have your knowledge of putting a knife into a man. Of course now you are going back and editing posts so some of it is gone.

    Bill, by the way, is a good example of the other end of the spectrum from the way you entered this group. Do a little reading here and see how horribly he's been treated.

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    Gentlemen,
    just my 2 cents........every knife can take a life, it's a matter of lacerating the right structure and allowing a hemorrhage to occur that is either quick or slow(er). There is NO instant incapacitation with a knife as we all know. I have been asked by several new and very well seasoned knife makers for advice as a trauma surgeon about everything from blade geometry to functional length to accomplish a generic or specific goal. Take the karambit, it has a very limited set of desired uses depending on how you deploy the knife (add in short or long blade length) and lacerating tendons and lacerations through skin for a depth of less than 5-8 cm is what you would expect. The above 'scalpel' design again has its utility....unlike some wide blades at the tip, this one fits right through rib spaces and will puncture/lacerate as designed. Take a tanto, it will penetrate bone if necessary but most are not a tapered blade throughout the entire length so internal injury is limited to the actual blade (?) height analogous to the bullet permanent cavity. A strongly tapered blade will cut a wider path through whatever, we can all agree on that, but we have also seen some blade designed NOT penetrate or go off track when they hit bone.
    The perspective here is from people like us who operate on stab wound victims and see the internal effects on the heart, aorta, liver, bowels and everything in between. There is no "Golden/Perfect" knife design but there are attempts at making blades that penetrate without 200 foot pounds of pressure behind them to get them deep, blades that are wide/high enough to cause greater injury potential. Killing, maiming, incapacitating can be done with a butter knife or a $2000 safe queen built by any maker here on the boards.
    11-B has a design just like others here, he based it on his knowledge of anatomy and scalpel use in the operating room.....his theory is sound and like everything else, open to critique, opinion and bashing.....that's why I enjoy this forum....thick skin is needed and a sense of humor is mandatory.....
    ss
    The blade is so sharp, the incision so perfect, they don't realize they've been cut until they're out of the fight: A Surgeon Warrior
    I use a knife to defend life and to save it......
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    SS.....Had his original response been anything like what you just posted.....this would have gone a bit differently. Still a bit over the top with the original post but your post is a well worded explanation of the design benefits and all that was sought. This thread ceased being about the design early on

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    0341 i can count on one hand how many times i needed slicer or a dagger and that is 0

    the times i needed a prybar chopper or digging iron i cant count anymore cause thats what a small fixed blade is used for

    i carried a spyderco millie and a multitool and never a fixed blade
    the knives i make for troops reflect what i would have loved to have in the field
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    Soup has saved a lot of lives w/ his drumming.


    Now back to our original programming.


    I think you will find that JD has a lot of good, practical knowledge for knife makers, collectors, and we have a lot of fun here. The over the top death squad elite operators don't like us too much, but hey, we are simple folk who enjoy our simple hobby.



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    this dude is an 11-B, which is Army infantry. He is not s Delta operator or Sf combat ninja, he is a grunt with a gun, "go that way and shoot bad people" type of job, I know, Im one of them. While it is not impossible to believe that he used his knife to kill an enemy in combat, I doubt he knows more about combat knives than anybody out here. I pick my nose in public, but you dont see me giving people the finger about how good I am at it.

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    Wow, how many screen names does Eric Draven have?

    I have nowhere near the experience of the knife makers here who have given you advice, but I do know a bit about knives. That being said, Balisongs! I am pretty sure they are in your future and you would do quite well.
    I'm going to guess that all of your failures prior to the "revolution" will pale in comparison to how hard your life will be afterward. You will not rise to the occasion. If you can't succeed in a structured, ordered society, you will continue to fail miserably when winning friends and influencing people becomes vitally important.

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    Quote Originally Posted by deadpool View Post
    this dude is an 11-B, which is Army infantry. He is not s Delta operator or Sf combat ninja, he is a grunt with a gun, "go that way and shoot bad people" type of job, I know, Im one of them. While it is not impossible to believe that he used his knife to kill an enemy in combat, I doubt he knows more about combat knives than anybody out here. I pick my nose in public, but you dont see me giving people the finger about how good I am at it.

    /\ /\ this

    i don't know shit about killing some thing with a knife


    and don't know shit about knives.

    but i do not like this design

    kind regards, Martin

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    This reminds me of the guy that was grinding knives out of sawzall blades and swearing that they were just straight up awesome like nothing you've ever seen before. A ho-hum looking knife is ok for a first post but we can all do without the accompanying story about how they were born of the sands and blood and mortar fire of desert warfare. Prisoners make stabbing implements every day and nobody is impressed.
    "The entirety of human technological advancement is and always has been about finding just the right rock and figuring out what we can make it do. That's all we've ever had to work with." -Bushidomosquito

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boogerball View Post
    death machine and man....in love.

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    Fielded.


    Mods here can lock it up if they like.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bushidomosquito View Post
    This reminds me of the guy that was grinding knives out of sawzall blades and swearing that they were just straight up awesome like nothing you've ever seen before. A ho-hum looking knife is ok for a first post but we can all do without the accompanying story about how they were born of the sands and blood and mortar fire of desert warfare. Prisoners make stabbing implements every day and nobody is impressed.
    I dunno..................the poor bastard who gets shanked is gonna raise an eye brow.
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