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    This question has developed from a previous post about a good small folding or fixed blade edc knife. I suggested the not yet released Spyderco Techno. From what I am reading, it seems to be an all around great small edc knife. The only problem I have is that it is manufactured in Taiwan. The majority of knives I have and like have all been made in the US and Seki City Japan. The only knife I have manuactured in Taiwan is my Rat 1 folder which I love, but it is a cheaper knife, but of great build quality (not a big fan of AUS-8 though). I always had the impression that Taiwanese made knives weren't of the best quality, or they don't have much pride in their work. The Techno is an expensive knife and am not sure weather to be confident with Taiwan etched on the side of the blade, or any future pricier knives. Nothing to loose with the 30 dollar knives but am just curious about the $100 plus knives. I feel kinda weird carrying a close to $200 knife, that when asked where such a valuable knife was made I have to say Taiwan. Just wondering if I am being Stubborn, naive or missing out on some great knives?
    Last edited by JONSA; 01-11-2012, 04:31 PM.
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    You can read up on it over at the Spyderco Forums. I had the same questions myself. You'll note that the Spyderco higher end knives made in Taiwan say "Taichung Taiwan" because they're from that city.

    I've got several Taichung Taiwan knives now and honestly, they're of the same quality as those built in Golden, Colorado or Seki City, Japan. You're definitely getting what you pay for with them.

    I have a Zulu, Navaja, Gayle Bradley, and a couple others and have no complaints or issues with any of them.

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      The quality of the Taichnung Spydercos is excellent. The only thing I could fault is that some of the edges, on the liners and blade spines mainly, could stand to be deburred more and made a little softer.
      ~ Nate



      Originally posted by Parker
      The rest is somewhere between the hard-use fantasies of the Strider crowd and the blinged-up fever-dreams of CutThroat Knives on an acid binge.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by jujigatame View Post
        The quality of the Taichnung Spydercos is excellent. The only thing I could fault is that some of the edges, on the liners and blade spines mainly, could stand to be deburred more and made a little softer.
        ^^^ This.

        If you have some 600 or 800 grit abrasive laying around, don't even worry about the edges, just knock them down with some fine sandpaper and get on doin' what your doin'. Overall I find the quality of taiwanese produced knives to be excellent. In fact sometimes they're better than the Japanese produced knives.

        That said I like the look of the techno but it's too expensive for a taiwanese produced knife. If you want a small titanium framelock and don't mind it being made in taiwan, get a Sage 2. Best 120$ you can spend on a framelock IMO.
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          It all depends on the facility that the knives originate from. I have a CRKT Crawford/Kasper folding fighter which I *know* if it didn`t say "Taiwan" on the choil, it would get the same respect as any other made in USA or Seki City knife.....then there`s my Cold Steel Rajah I, fit & finish as nice as you could ask for, rivaling many custom knives. Made in Taiwan....

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          • #6
            Originally posted by FriskyDingo View Post
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            That said I like the look of the techno but it's too expensive for a taiwanese produced knife. ......
            That's why I don't have a Vallotton.

            Hopefully, Spyderco brings work back to Golden after the expansion.

            If not, we'll know that Taiwanese manufacture really is about the Profits, no matter what they've said.

            Spyderco has enough models to choose from. I don't need to settle for something from Taiwan.

            Just my opinion.

            RIP Jerry "DaBird" Lameka 1957-2012. Rest peacefully, buddy. We'll never forget you.

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            • #7
              I used to have a Spyderco PPT (FUCKING THEIVES!) it was made in Tiachung Taiwan if it wasn't etched in to the blade you would never know it was made overseas.

              Top notch stuff IMO.

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              • #8
                Remember all those years ago when people used to spit on Japanese made products? It's all circular, bud. The Spydercos I've had that say made in Taiwan may as well be stamped made in Golden, CO. The quality is damn near the same. If you let something like where the knife was made affect your buying then you are going to miss out on some great knives. The Gayle Bradley is one production knife that I recommend more than any other. I try to buy US made knives whenever I can, but there are just too many fine offerings come out of different countries to only buy US.
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                • #9
                  Guess it comes down to MADE IN USA gives the knife a much better look and comfort to me, and supporting the American worker. I'm hoping what I'm hearing about Taiwanese made knives is true cause I still wanna go for this blade. I feel good about the decision because I always wanted a Strider PT. I feel better about the Spyderco Techno for fit and finish for the price point than the Strider PT. I don't know if paying an extra hundred or so dollars is worth it for the PT just for my American Pride. I know with the spyderco I won't have to keep sending my knife back for blade play and other issues, which adds up overtime (frustration and money).
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                    Touchy damn subject. No one can dispute the fact that Taichung is producing some damn fine knives but do I own any? Nope.
                    USMC RETIRED

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                    • #11
                      Spyderco knives marked "Taichung Taiwan" are top quality. A little too expensive for made in taiwan in my opinion, but you cannot deny quality
                      Originally posted by OnceBitten View Post
                      Hopefully, Spyderco brings work back to Golden after the expansion.
                      If not, we'll know that Taiwanese manufacture really is about the Profits, no matter what they've said.
                      I lost my hope after I saw 2012 catalog. Quite a few new custom collaborations went to Taiwan.
                      It looks like Taichung is "new Seki".
                      Any business exist to make a profit, but in this case it is not necessary profit or at least profit only. It is not that easy to expand manufacturing plan, there are quite a few manufacturing companies in currently US, which experience big difficulties to find qualified help. It is hard job to expand efficiently.
                      Last edited by bh49; 01-17-2012, 06:47 PM.
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                      • #12
                        dont know but any one see the old made in usa bokers awful
                        Brandon Sawisch bladesmith

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by dragoncutlery View Post
                          dont know but any one see the old made in usa bokers awful
                          The Parker Frost(?) one?
                          I'm not too sure those were made in the States.
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