a good start

[Bango Skank]

hello all! so i will be moving stateside soon and i will have some room to sprawl, with that i am going to start serious work. what i need to know is what a good setup would be for heat treatment(bear in mind i am a temper virgin) not large but what would you recommend for a semi experienced steel worker to start gettin a feel for heat treatments.


should i start on the torch and simple quench, or should i bite the bullet and fork over for an oven.

my aspirations at this point are leaning to getting as good as i can with differential treatments so is there any thing that i can disregard and are there things i should pay closer attention to towards that end.

mainly looking for good equipment, american made, and any particular arangements that have worked for you or someone you know.

i welcome any opinions as long as we can keep it constructive i have sensitive emotions.
thanks!

[moon]

I bought a sugarcreek kiln about 6 months ago and I really like it. Also it's about half the price of a paragon or evenheat. Only thing I screwed up was not getting the auto control, just ordered it last week. Moon.

[Lon Humphrey]

hey moon i just looked at the web site and i didnt see any seprate controler...where is that showen?

[THE PUNISHER]

hello all! so i will be moving stateside soon and i will have some room to sprawl, with that i am going to start serious work. what i need to know is what a good setup would be for heat treatment(bear in mind i am a temper virgin) not large but what would you recommend for a semi experienced steel worker to start gettin a feel for heat treatments.


should i start on the torch and simple quench, or should i bite the bullet and fork over for an oven.

my aspirations at this point are leaning to getting as good as i can with differential treatments so is there any thing that i can disregard and are there things i should pay closer attention to towards that end.

mainly looking for good equipment, american made, and any particular arangements that have worked for you or someone you know.

i welcome any opinions as long as we can keep it constructive i have sensitive emotions.
thanks!

now you act normal? should have tried this approach 115 posts ago. :devilfinger: :punish:

[Ronlad]

now you act normal? should have tried this approach 115 posts ago. :devilfinger: :punish:

Amen to that! Perhaps he is changing his ways.... Time will tell. :decisions

[Bango Skank]

if you aren't addressing the issue raised by the "OP" go waste someone elses time. thank you.

thanks moon i'm gonna check that out.

[moon]

hey moon i just looked at the web site and i didnt see any seprate controler...where is that showen?

Funny you should say that, I looked that site over three times and couldn't find the dam thing. Finally called them, they knew just what I wanted and it's on it's way. Good luck at Blade, Lon. Moon.

[Lon Humphrey]

thanks buddy...how much total did you have in that?

[moon]

The auto control was around $250, the oven was just over $400. But I got the small one (that's what the ol' lady says:devilzeek) From corner to corner is just under 13". Does everything I wanted it to do. Moon

[50calmike]

if you aren't addressing the issue raised by the "OP" go waste someone elses time. thank you.

thanks moon i'm gonna check that out.
Could be the start of the downward spiral again?

As far as the oven, I think you should get it. You can use the clay technique in them to get a good hamon. But I really think you should attend a hammer-in when you get stateside and learn a little hands on.

[moon]

I agree with 50calmike. Hit as many hammer-ins as you can. You can learn a lot on these forums but nothing takes the place of actually hitting a chunk of red steel with the hammer. Moon

[Lon Humphrey]

thats a real good price...i am looking at the bigger one...even tho it would be like a hotdog in a hallway for me :)

[Bango Skank]

cool cool. i think i will get me an oven. why half step? a good oven, torch, hammers, grinders and steel = good start. wouldnt you say? i will do some hammer forging in there too. hamon lines get me all hot and bothered.(in a good way not the downward spiral kind of way)

say other than of coarse actually "kickin' the tires and lightin' the fires" do you guys know any good books or websites that get really in-depth with the whole process. also heard that o-1 was a good steel to learn to temper on hows 5160 with forgiveness? i like 5160 and i might as well just get used to that steel if i can get away with it.

[50calmike]

cool cool. i think i will get me an oven. why half step? a good oven, torch, hammers, grinders and steel = good start. wouldnt you say? i will do some hammer forging in there too. hamon lines get me all hot and bothered.(in a good way not the downward spiral kind of way)

say other than of coarse actually "kickin' the tires and lightin' the fires" do you guys know any good books or websites that get really in-depth with the whole process. also heard that o-1 was a good steel to learn to temper on hows 5160 with forgiveness? i like 5160 and i might as well just get used to that steel if i can get away with it.
http://www.abana.org/
Great site and organization.
5160 is very forgiving, O-1 is also.
http://www.abana.org/resources/education/books/index.shtml