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L33731
12-06-2004, 02:11 PM
This is one of those situations where the person committing the crime should have the exact same thing done to them in return.. Dirty fuckin bitch, err, reading this pissed me off, I am going to punch someone now...




PLANO, Texas (AP) -- A woman with a history of postpartum depression cut the arms off her baby girl who later died, authorities said.

Dena Schlosser was sitting in her living room covered with blood when police arrived Monday. Her almost 11-month-old daughter lay fatally injured in a crib in a bedroom of the family's apartment in Plano. The child was pronounced dead shortly afterward at a nearby hospital.

Police have charged the 35-year-old mother with capital murder, but declined to reveal where she is being held.

Schlosser, who had a history of postpartum depression, had been investigated on child neglect allegations earlier this year, but Texas Child Protective Services had recently closed a seven-month investigation, concluding that Schlosser did not pose a risk to her children. Neighbors said she seemed to be a loving, attentive mother.

"There were never any indications of violence with this family," agency spokeswoman Marissa Gonzales said. "The children had always been healthy, happy and cared for."

But, on Monday, authorities discovered a grisly scene at the family's apartment after the child's father called a day-care center, and asked them to check on his wife and daughter.

Day-care workers called 911 after talking to the mother; an operator then called Schlosser.

Asked if there was an emergency, Schlosser calmly responded "Yes," according to 911 tapes released by police.

"Exactly what happened?" the 911 operator asked.

"I cut her arms off," Schlosser replied, as the hymn "He Touched Me" played in the background.

"You cut her arms off?" he repeated.

"Uh huh," she answered.

It was not immediately clear what instrument was used to sever the baby's arms or why the child's father called a day-care center to check on his family.

Schlosser lived at the apartment with other family members, including her two older daughters. Authorities said the girls, ages 6 and 9, were at school when police arrived, and that their father was at work.

No one answered the door Monday night at the family's apartment in suburban Dallas. Children's bicycles rested near the entrance along with angel garden statues.

Neighbors said Schlosser took her children swimming in the summer, had picnics in the courtyard and walked her baby around the complex the same time each afternoon.

Dena Livingston, 43, said she saw Schlosser making her rounds with the stroller on Sunday. Two days earlier, she saw Schlosser waiting with the baby outside the elementary school where her two other daughters attend.

"She didn't give off like she was in a distant world or didn't care about the baby," Livingston said.

Livingston's husband, Brad, added: "To see her with the girls, you would just think she was a great mother."

Child-protective officials were interviewing Schlosser's daughters and would talk to the father before deciding whether to remove the girls from the home.

In January, the agency was called to the home after Schlosser was seen running down the street, with one of her daughters bicycling after her, authorities said. When officials arrived, the child told them her mother had left her 6-day-old sister alone in the apartment.

Schlosser appeared at the time to be suffering from postpartum depression and having a psychotic episode, Gonzales said.

Schlosser was hospitalized, and later agreed to seek counseling and saw a psychiatrist, Gonzales said.

"At the time we closed the case, we had been assured that Mom was stabilized and that she was not a risk to herself or her children," Geoff Wool, spokesman for the Family and Protective Services Department, said.



Source:

http://www.cnn.com/2004/US/11/23/severed.arms.ap/index.html

007
12-06-2004, 03:26 PM
That is sickening. :(

Guillermo
12-06-2004, 03:34 PM
Shit, I don't know what to say. I hate it but she probably won't get much punshiment from it since she is a poor "victim" herself. I would be glad to cut her arm off myself and let her bleed to death. Put that mad fucking dog bitch out of her misery.

Bonzo
12-06-2004, 03:50 PM
Mr. L33731,

I prefer the standard tree method and slap the horses ass method of hanging, but this is interesting:


EXECUTION BY HANGING

BACKGROUND

Hanging has been utilized as a mode of execution for as long as man can remember, There have been more executions by this method than any other means. The procedure is simple; and yet there have been more botched executions by this method than by any other.

Essentially, execution by hanging is strangulation, effected by restricting the executee's air supply at the neck, unconsciousness occurring between two and four minutes and death within ten, resulting in death by asphyxiation. This, however, is not humane.

The correct procedure is when the executee is dropped some distance and stopped by a rope fastened around his neck. The force of this drop and stop breaks the bones in the executee's neck and severs his spinal cord causing him to go into medical shock and be rendered unconscious. At this point the executee strangles to death. This method is the only humane form of hanging.

The force (in foot pounds) of the drop is critical and is determined by the physical stature of the executee, primarily his weight. In general, the heavier the person, the shorter the drop, and conversely, the lighter the person the longer the drop. Generally, weights as low as 120 pounds result in a force of some 950 foot pounds where weights over 220 result in some 1100 foot pounds. A drop of too short a distance will result in a condition where the spinal cord is not severed and the executee will not go into shock and will be conscious during the strangulation period. A drop of too long a distance will result in decapitation. Both conditions are not humane. In general, execution requirements will never result in an execution where the inertia of the drop will greatly exceed l600 foot pounds or be less than 900 foot pounds. In all cases, it is better to utilize an established Drop Distance Table to prevent an error or accident.

The Drop Distance Table contained herein is the established Table utilized successfully by the United States Army for many years. Additionally, the specifications for some of the specialized hardware defined herein are resultant from many years of testing by the United States Army.

MEDICAL DESCRIPTION

The executee will be dropped a distance as defined in the Drop Distance Table and his acceleration will be stopped by the rope around his neck. This will result in the breakage of several neck bones and the severing of the spinal cord within a time period of less than a second. The executee will immediately enter medical shock. He will probably experience one brief instant (measured in milliseconds) of pain before he loses all consciousness and all sensation. His body will go limp with paralysis. He will then strangle due to the lack of oxygen. He should be brain dead in something more than six minutes and heart dead in about eight. The attending medical doctor will determine heart death.

Depending upon the equipment used, there will be some physical trauma to the executee's body. This should be minimized by using the defined equipment.

PURPOSE

This Manual, the Protocol, Procedures and Equipment contained herein were written and designed to ensure a competent and humane execution. The equipment and procedures have been taken from long-standing and well-tested protocol and changes and improvements were made based upon expert engineering and medical considerations. It is the author's intent to make the execution as easy and painless as possible for both the Executee and those persons tasked with carrying out the execution. The Protocol, Procedures and the Equipment have been designed to maintain the dignity of the executee, as well as, the dignity of those responsible for the execution.

Up until very recently Execution was an Art employed only by the "Executioner". It is only now becoming a Science with the Training and Certification of other types of Execution Technicians (i.e. Lethal Injection and Electrocution). Those persons carrying out the Protocol and Procedures in this Manual shall be Trained and Certified as Hanging Technicians.

It is further suggested (if the Jurisdiction permits) that the Executee be tranquilized one-half (1/2) hour prior to execution by the administration of Diazepam (Valium) as per the dosage table.

EQUIPMENT

The following items are required for a competent hanging.

1. A Gallows should be utilized having the following basic characteristics.

A. A floor height of at least nine (9) feet to allow for a minimum clearance of about one (1) foot on the drop.

B. A crossbeam height of nine (9) feet giving an approximate clearance of three (3) feet above the executee.

C. An opening and trap door of at least three (3) feet square to allow proper clearance for the executee.

D. Means of releasing the trap door. This is normally accomplished by utilizing two bolts under one side of the door which are actuated by a common mechanism, either linkage rods or cable.

E. Means for stopping the trap door swing after it has fallen. This is normally accomplished utilizing a mechanical metal spring catch or a counterweight and a "rope grabber".

F. An eyelet or fastening mechanism for the rope containing the Hangman's Noose.

2. Body Restraint. This is a waist strap containing two (2) wrist restraints. It is fabricated from 3000 lb. test nylon aircraft webbing two (2) inches wide and is fifty (50) inches long. It contains three (3) quick release fasteners (one [1] for the waist and one [1] for each wrist) all of which are adjustable from each side. The color is black with chrome fasteners.

3. Leg Restraint. This is an ankle strap which binds both ankles together. It is fabricated from 3000 lb. test nylon aircraft webbing two (2) inches wide and is thirty-six (36) inches long. It contains one (1) quick release fastener which is adjustable from both sides. The color is black with chrome fasteners.

4. Collapse Frame. This is a six by thirty (6 X 30) inch frame fabricated of square steel tubing. It contains three (3) body restraints measuring fifty (50) inches long by two (2) inches wide which are made from 3000 lb. test nylon aircraft webbing and contain three (3) quick release fasteners adjustable from both sides. (One [1] for each restraint.) The color of the frame and webbing is black and the fasteners are chrome. This is used in the event of a physical collapse by the executee and enables the personnel conducting the execution to transport him to the scaffold.

5. Hood. The hood is fabricated of black denim and has split sides enabling it to extend onto the chest and back. It is generally used, optionally, to cover the face of the executee. A similar hood is available for the executioner but has a hole for the eyes.

6. Mechanical Hangman's Knot. This is fabricated from a delrin cylinder and has two (2) longitudinal holes and a steel U-clamp to fasten the rope. It comes with a black denim cover which is fastened with velcro. It is a replacement for the Conventional Hangman's Knot to eliminate the problems in tying the knot. It, unlike the Conventional Hangman's Knot, never binds in operation.

7. Noose Sleeve. This is fabricated of denim and fastened with velcro. It is utilized to prevent tissue damage at the neck.

8. Rope. Standard hangman's rope of three-quarter (3/4) inch Manila hemp is available in thirty (30) foot lengths. This rope has been boiled and stretched in drying to eliminate all spring, stiffness or tendency to coil. The rope is also available in six-hundred (600) foot coils but cannot be treated when supplied thus.

9. Knot Lubricant. Knot lubricant must be used whether utilizing the Mechanical or Conventional Hangman's knot. With the Mechanical Hangman's Knot, silicone spray is recommended. With the Conventional Hangman's Knot, melted paraffin is recommended.

PERSONNEL

Personnel for the Execution must consist of the following persons:

A. One (1) or more Certified Hanging Technicians.

B. One (1) Executioner.

Additional Personnel:

C. One (1) or more attendants or guards.

At least three (3) persons from the above categories are necessary to conduct the execution. Ideally, six (6) persons: two (2) Certified Hanging Technicians, three (3) attendants or guards, and one (1) Executioner would result in an easier execution. The Hanging Technicians, only, will do makeready, test and bind the Executee. The Executioner need not have any special training, as his only function is to release the trap door.

PREPARATION

The following procedure should be used in makeready for the gallows prior to the execution. This should be done several days prior to the execution by a Certified Hanging Technician.

Determine the Rope Length for the particular executee. Employ the following formula for this determination and in the event of a multiple execution test with the requirements for the lighter executee and the longer drop. After the first execution, the Rope Length should be shortened for the next execution. Since the test was for the lighter executee, the trap door may be considered to function with the greater weight of the second executee.

Rope Length = (S - C) + Drop Distance

Where: S = Scaffold Crossbeam Height from Scaffold Floor

C = Executee's Chin Height

Drop Distance = the distance the executee is dropped

Rope Length = distance of the executee's drop + the distance of his chin from the scaffold crossbeam

Note: All measurements are in inches.

1. Measure the executee's chin height from the floor and weigh him.

2. Measure the scaffold crossbeam height from the floor of the scaffold.

3. Subtract the Chin Height from the Scaffold Crossbeam Height and add the Drop Distance from the Drop Distance Table to obtain the Rope Length.

4. Mark the rope at the rope length and cut it seven (7) feet longer. If fastener for rope is not at crossbeam but at another location, add this distance to the crossbeam height plus any additional amount needed for fastening.

5. Boil the rope for one (1) hour and stretch the rope while drying to eliminate all spring, stiffness or tendency to coil. Dry thoroughly.

6. Either tie Conventional Hangman's Knot as per included instructions or utilize a Mechanical Hangman's Knot and fasten with U-clamp. Lubricate Hangman's Knot with proper lubricant.

7. Install the Rope with the Hangman's Noose to the scaffold crossbeam and cut off remaining rope. The rope should be stretched tight prior to cutting and only the
Rope Length should hang below the scaffold crossbeam.

8. Oil, check and verify that all mechanical parts of the Gallows (i.e. the hinges on the trap door and the release mechanism) are functioning properly.

9. Fill two (2) sandbags with the equivalent weight of the executee (half in each bag) and fasten the bags together at the tops. Open the Noose and slip it over one of the bags and tighten it at the point where the bags are fastened together. You are now ready to test the gallows.

10. Close the trap door and reset the trip mechanism. Stand on the door to make sure it is secure. Place the sandbags on the door and loop the rope in such a fashion as to prevent any crimping or catching. Test the gallows repeatedly (at least twelve [12] times) to insure proper mechanical operation of the trap door and that the rope is secure and will not break.

11. You are now prepared for the execution.

EXECUTION PROCEDURE

Note: The following procedure should be completed by a Certified Hanging Technician.

1. Install the Noose Sleeve and, if using a Mechanical Hangman's Knot, install the cover for the Knot.

2. Install the Body Restraint around the Executee's waist and tightly bind his wrists to the restraint. (His arms may be restrained either in the front or the back.) If necessary, utilize the Collapse Frame.

3. Bring the Executee to the Execution location and up the stairs to the scaffold. Remove the Collapse Frame, if utilized.

4. Place Executee on the trap door and conduct the legal formalities.

5. Bind the Executee's legs with the Leg Restraint. Place the Hood over the Executee's head, if used. Place the Hangman's Noose over the Executee's head and tighten snugly around his neck. Place the Hangman's Knot directly behind the Executee's left ear.

6. All Hanging Technicians shall leave the scaffold and the Executioner, on order from the Warden, shall release the trap door.

7. The Trap door shall open and the Executee shall drop. On order from the Warden some eight minutes after the release mechanism was thrown, the attending doctor shall examine the Executee for heart death.

8. After the pronouncement of death, the Hanging Technicians shall, while supporting the Executee, loosen and remove the Noose and Hood and set the Executee on the floor. Thereupon, the Hanging Technicians shall remove the Leg and Body Restraints. The Executee shall be placed in a body bag for removal.



Best regards,

Bonz

007
12-06-2004, 04:19 PM
"...one or more Certified Hanging Technicians..."

Where do they have this course? :decoder:

L33731
12-06-2004, 04:48 PM
Dear Mr Bonz..

Once again your "Sharp as a Tack" sense of observation is right on point.. I must say though I find a few points in this method of execution to be a tad bit too humane..



Example


It is further suggested (if the Jurisdiction permits) that the Executee be tranquilized one-half (1/2) hour prior to execution by the administration of Diazepam (Valium) as per the dosage table.

Fuck that nonesense, I would give her crank/ritalin cocktail to make sure she was nice and awake for this lovely little experience..


Rope. Standard hangman's rope of three-quarter (3/4) inch Manila hemp is available in thirty (30) foot lengths.

Too Humane, I was thinking more along the lines of fishing line, maybe 2 strands to make sure it won't snap, and it can only be about 2' long for optimal neck snappage


Hood. The hood is fabricated of black denim and has split sides enabling it to extend onto the chest and back.

Too Humane, I was thinking more along the lines of a clear plastic baggie, preferably one that locks in the freshness


On order from the Warden some eight minutes after the release mechanism was thrown, the attending doctor shall examine the Executee for heart death.

Ne, let that bitch hang around roughly 24 hours, then have a good wiff of her, if she ain't stinken then she keeps hangin..


Best Regards

James





"Certified Hanging Technicians"


Can I get a new title up in here ?? :doublefu:

BenDibble
12-06-2004, 05:31 PM
i think is quite possibly the longest post i have ever seen. :clydetz:

SuperD
12-06-2004, 05:35 PM
As I think I have pointed out elsewhere, this is another perfect case of why we need to bring back crucifiction. Seriously. A short drop and a quick stop is far too easy for this cunt. I don't give a rat's ass if she was depressed. Postpartum or otherwise. Fuck her.

Nail the bitch to some lumber.

aaron
12-06-2004, 05:56 PM
fuck that

lets cut her arms off slowly with something nice and dull, and then toss on some salt for flavour


fucking bitch

Bonzo
12-06-2004, 07:23 PM
Dear Mr Bonz..

Once again your "Sharp as a Tack" sense of observation is right on point.. I must say though I find a few points in this method of execution to be a tad bit too humane..



Example


It is further suggested (if the Jurisdiction permits) that the Executee be tranquilized one-half (1/2) hour prior to execution by the administration of Diazepam (Valium) as per the dosage table.

Fuck that nonesense, I would give her crank/ritalin cocktail to make sure she was nice and awake for this lovely little experience..


Rope. Standard hangman's rope of three-quarter (3/4) inch Manila hemp is available in thirty (30) foot lengths.

Too Humane, I was thinking more along the lines of fishing line, maybe 2 strands to make sure it won't snap, and it can only be about 2' long for optimal neck snappage


Hood. The hood is fabricated of black denim and has split sides enabling it to extend onto the chest and back.

Too Humane, I was thinking more along the lines of a clear plastic baggie, preferably one that locks in the freshness


On order from the Warden some eight minutes after the release mechanism was thrown, the attending doctor shall examine the Executee for heart death.

Ne, let that bitch hang around roughly 24 hours, then have a good wiff of her, if she ain't stinken then she keeps hangin..


Best Regards

James





"Certified Hanging Technicians"


Can I get a new title up in here ?? :doublefu:


Mr. James,

That was some standard hanging protocol I dug off some website. Actually, there was more, like weight/drop ratios and all that groovy stuff. Myself, I don't agree with the protocol, but I do favor hanging as a cheap alternative to expensive drugs, gas, silver bullets and all that jazz. Here in the Peoples Respooblik of Cailfornia, there is 600+ on death row right now. I, as supreme volunteer, and hangman extroidinaire, could hang every one of those pricks with about, say, 100 feet of good 1 inch thick nylon rope. Weight ratio's be damned, cause when one falls and his head pops off his neck, then there's another in line to take his place. Burial? No problemo. Just dig a large trench and have the portable gallows drop the sad sack of shit right in the hole. Use inmate labour to dig and fill the trench. Execution made simple, by yer ol' pal.


Best regards,

Bonz

007
12-06-2004, 07:34 PM
i think is quite possibly the longest post i have ever seen. :clydetz:


I think XRay in his prime may have posted some as long as that, but I can't say for certain since I never actually finished reading any of his. :devil:

SuperD
12-06-2004, 07:36 PM
Where the fuck is Xray? Anybody?

(Xray in his prime would have put this to shame)

Mr.LaBella
12-07-2004, 06:37 AM
Where the fuck is Xray? Anybody?

(Xray in his prime would have put this to shame)

i emailed him recently no reply as of yet :-D

007
12-07-2004, 04:34 PM
Sure is taking him a long time to get tired of that anal probing! :devour:

Mr.LaBella
12-07-2004, 05:26 PM
it was "gay cruise"

007
12-07-2004, 05:36 PM
Right! Hard to keep track of all the shenanigans in cyberspace.

BenDibble
12-07-2004, 09:38 PM
well whatever it was, he is having fun i assume.

code
12-10-2004, 01:53 AM
Forget nylon rope, it stretches! Use chain, that way it leaves nifty marks in the neck! Speaking of hangings, has anyone seen the movie "Dancer in the Dark"?

Mr.LaBella
12-10-2004, 05:49 AM
nope. havent seen it.

007
12-10-2004, 01:16 PM
Tell us more, Code.

L33731
12-10-2004, 02:11 PM
has anyone seen the movie "Dancer in the Dark"?



Talk to B, He has a Vast Collection of Gay P0rn....

42long
12-11-2004, 02:37 PM
i think expose her to nuclear radiation till she gets cancer and radiation poisoning and watch as her guts soup up and spray out her ass, or infect her with smallpxs leporesy[spelling?]and a lot of other diseases at once

borinquen
12-11-2004, 02:50 PM
Talk to B, He has a Vast Collection of Gay P0rn....

just the pictures of the boxcovers,gee i hope that doesn't make me gay :snicker:

Wolfgang
12-12-2004, 03:36 AM
Talk to B, He has a Vast Collection of Gay P0rn....

just the pictures of the boxcovers,gee i hope that doesn't make me gay :snicker:

THIS is how R:ron:N enjoys the cock!

:assfucked:

Ken Brock
11-11-2009, 10:07 PM
that bitch needs to be tortured to death

very slowly

50calmike
11-12-2009, 09:13 PM
I can't for the life of me, remember what happened to the other nut from Texas.
The woman who drowned her kids, all of them, Can't remember her name. Hope she died.