The *OFFICIAL* comic book thread

[silenthunterstudios]

I used to be a comic geek, not many catch my eye these days. I'm into a couple now, no, I don't dress like a mall ninja, mall rat etc. Checking out Hellboy, Walking Dead, Poison Elves (turning down a definite mall ninja route recently, unfortunately). Two guilty pleasures are Cavewoman and Liberty Meadows(not work safe websites, lil bit o' nudey). :firedevil

Any of you bandaid hoarders read the above?:ernie:

[xrayzebra]

NO, but Deadeye and I love comix... just haven't been looking at them much. She has been a Heavy Metal subscriber almost constantly since the 70s. OK... maybe there is a subtle difference... but it's all graphic art witha story... illustrated short stories, whatever. Comix tend to be more serialized stories, but same basic thing. I'm sure you know HM. Which of these might you recommend for a Heavy Metal fan? We'll check 'em out.

[silenthunterstudios]

I used to read Heavy Metal too, still have some old issues. Remember the Gypsy serial? I thought that was pretty good. The older movie was one of the first adult cartoons I saw.

If you've never seen the Hellboy movie, check it out. Hellboy is about a demon who is called to Earth by the Nazis, but instead of appearing in front of the Nazis, he appears in front of the Allied forces in WW2, and is raised by the Americans. He fights bad guys, but he isn't like Superman etc. He's more like the guy you might find at the end of the bar nursing a beer and eating his dinner after work. If you see it at the store, pick it up immediately.

Walking Dead is a zombie comic, with the living people in it becoming more like zombies every day, except they don't eat flesh. It's similar to Land of the Dead and other zombie flicks, but it just trumps them in story.

Poison Elves is like LOTR on an acid trip. An alchoholic, bipolar elf with a height complex, a magic automatic pistol that never runs out of bullets, a magic sword, and a filthier mouth than most of the bastids out there. Was pretty good, until the creator almost died and his mall ninja friends drove the comic into the toilet with their specials etc.

Cavewoman, one word, breasts.

Liberty Meadows, Google it, used to be in the comics section of your daily paper.

I can write a better description when I get home.

[grover_cephas]

Reading graphic novels is my job, so I sees lots of 'em. :-D

The Walking Dead books I read, I liked. Never once been let down by a Hellboy book. And I loves me some Liberty Meadows. Frank Cho can draw wimmin like nobody else. Have you seen University^2? it's the comic Cho created for his college newspaper, which was the inspiration for Liberty Meadows. Most of the characters are the same, 'cept Frank's a duck for some reason.

I posted a bunch of my current favorites over in the "Books" sticky in the General Gear forum.

[Mr.LaBella]

*obviously, I am indeed a geek*

havent read any in a while though

[ded i]

I tend toward some of the European and South American, illustrators like Oscar Chichoni:
http://www.umtoquedearte.com/diamond/ochichoni1/pages/QMan_OC_Mek_1346_Illustration_for_Hardcore_Publish ing_Company.htm

http://www.umtoquedearte.com/diamond/ochichoni1/pages/QMan_OC_Mek_1340_Cover_for_Fierro_Magazine.htm

And I still adore Moebius aka Jean Giraud

http://www.bpib.com/illustrat/giraud.htm

AND Eleuteri Serpieri {WARNING EXPLICIT}

http://www.druuna.net/bienvenue-an.htm?page=galeries-an

of course: Frank Frazetta –realistic fantastic animals, color and composition
Richard Corben – “The Whistler” cyborg construction and interaction - narrative
Heriberto – Francis Bacon influence on comic art
Liberatore – Progression, the influence of time on character, i.e., Ranxerox to Ranx

yadda yadda

:thankyou: I enjoyed seeing your guys

[silenthunterstudios]

I've got two of Serpieris sketchbooks, the man is a great artist

[silenthunterstudios]

Trying to increase the size of my avatar, its the cover from a Hellboy book

Heres some links, Liberty Meadows and Cavewoman NSFW

Liberty Meadows
http://www.libertymeadows.com/

Hellboy
http://www.hellboy.com/

Cavewoman
http://www.basementcomics.com/index2.htm

Poison Elves
http://www.cosmictherapy.com/poisonelves.html (all I could find about Poison Elves, the conjecture was that the creator had died)

[OilMan]

Meat and potatoes for me. Spiderman, Xmen, any #1 I see while at the bookstore. I lucked out and bought a couple of cases of comics years ago from a cracky that needed dope money. Best money I've ever spent. 50 bones for around $800 in comics. He had a ton of Star Trek and Spiderman comics in there and they are all in the plastic holders.:spin: I love crackys that need cash.:devilzeek

Haven't really read any in years though.

oil

[BigJim]

I have a bunch of OLD Conan the Barbarian Comics and magazines with Frank frazetta and Boris cover art. I don't read thenm because they are stupid.

But.... I can see value in the art and these may have some value beyond the cover price. I bought them about 30 years ago.

[ded i]

silenthunterstudios - Yeah, Serpieris is lethal.

OilMan - Gotta luv crack ... Grt score! Comics have become avant gard culture - old favs and recent like Spiegleman's Maus which won a Pulitzer: ..http://www.randomhouse.com/pantheon/graphicnovels/maus1.html

bigjim- It's all about the art for me, too - but I usually notice it if there's a good story line. Nice cache/cash.

[magnum]

I use to be real big into comics and my Favorite is Ghost Rider.I have Quite a collection of Ghost Rider comics including the ones when it was a Western themed comic.

magnum

[silenthunterstudios]

Have you seen the posters for the new Ghost Rider movie?

Heres the best link I could find for Walking Dead

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Walking_Dead

another one for Poison Elves

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poison_elves

[magnum]

Have you seen the posters for the new Ghost Rider movie?

Heres the best link I could find for Walking Dead

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Walking_Dead

another one for Poison Elves

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poison_elves

Oh Yes i have seen them and i can't hardly wait for the movie to hit the bigscreen:firedevil

magnum

[Wolverton]

I went to school, used to hang out and drink alot with the guy who does Poison Elves and did the I Lucifer comics (Andy Hayes). He was a cool guy and very fun to hang with.

We were punkers!:roxxor:

[silenthunterstudios]

Is he still alive? He almost died!

[Wolverton]

Huh? Wha?

How?!?

Last time I saw him was at a Fear concert in Seattle about 10 years ago. He lived in Mt Vernon here for awhile, but I lost track.

[Wolverton]

Hokay, from googling the living shit out of everything, the best I found was that he recovered and started making comics again. But I never found out how he got sick or what from in the first place.

[Chisel]

I've got a bunch of comics somewhere. Nothing fancy. Mostly X-Men, Sgt. Rock, etc.

One in particular that used to be pretty valuable. It was called "The Adventurers." Not many of them in the series, and they were B&W. Anybody else read 'em?

[silenthunterstudios]

The Monkey King!

http://www.libertymeadows.com/

Comic book artist, cheesecake artist, and Monkey King extraordinaire!

[Surgeon]

I like Frank's work, he *knows* how to draw the female form

[ded i]

I like Frank's work, he *knows* how to draw the female form


He knows how to draw anything. Nice post, SHS!

Fabulous Frank Cho (aka Duk Hyun Cho) born in Korea but, since age 6, has lived in Maryland - attended Univ. of Maryland, is an untrained artist who developed his own style of comic art mastery while doing cartoons for the college newspaper. Frank does MARVEL comics (Avengers) but is also known for his Liberty Meadows publication. He has won about every award available in the comic genre.

He inserts characters from other comics into his work and also adds weird little animals and even himself (as a talking chimpanzee) which makes his work increasingly postmodern - in other words - layering bits of pop culture which expand content historically ... the viewer gets a panorama rather than a tight view into one story.

Yay! :ssmile:

[puyallupknifeguy]

Wow, DeadEye...you a comic fan? I love Frank's work...think I have most of the stuff he has done for Marvel...:wes:

Anybody got more of Frank's work they can post?

[silenthunterstudios]

I got tons of his work! I'll see if I can post from my Mac powerbook at home.

[ded i]

Wow, DeadEye...you a comic fan?


I'm a fan, fersure! I've had a HeavyMetal subscription since they were available. I used to buy it at the newstand in the 70's and took a lot of teasing - so I was real happy when they started mailing it out.

I don't have a lot of time to read comics anymore, but I try to follow the artists.

Please post yr comic art! :ssmile:

[silenthunterstudios]

Deadeye, next time I see your hubby at the meeting, when is that btw, I will leave some comics with him.

[Surgeon]

Some Babe/Knife content from the master:

http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/5585/0112shanna0sk.jpg

http://img159.imageshack.us/img159/3654/batconposter8ok.jpg

http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/8830/redsonjas9ue.jpg

http://img159.imageshack.us/img159/1997/shanna007ss.jpg

:chuck:

[Semper708]

http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/8830/redsonjas9ue.jpg
:semper: Now this is my kind of women! :semper:

[ded i]

Nice! His women are great! I'm also very impressed with his composition - again, the guy rocks ...

[Lady MacDeath]

I was lucky enough to see him at a local library and it really tickled me to see how quiet and unimposing he is. It was also fun to watch him draw.

He put out one issue of a really promising comic called Zombie King. I was anxious to get my hands on the second issue so I inquired as to the release date. His reply was,"You're the one that bought that?"

[silenthunterstudios]

If you like zombie stuff, check out the Walking Dead.

[silenthunterstudios]

NSFW


The guy is a whack job, never gets anything out on time, but why should he have to. He's got the coin! Anyway, he is a great artist, too much angst for me, but I used to have his comics. Sold a few of them for about a hundred bucks a pop, collectible stuff!

http://www.linsner.com/

And of course the gallery is Stabberized!:devilzeek

http://www.jerzeedevil.com/gallery/files/6/4/7/DAWN_2004_CONVENTION_SKETCHBOOK_Joseph_Michael_Lin sner.jpg

[Lemmy]

Great artist. I have always been a fan of McFarlane's work.

[stephanfowler]

this is from one of the comic's I read on a semi regular basis


http://www.hookiedookiepanic.com/pics/94.jpg

[Mr.LaBella]

I had no idea there were such online comics, thanks to you for bringing this to OUR attention!

[ded i]

The Fudge Factory Comics website: http://fudgefactorycomics.com/



http://www.jerzeedevil.com/gallery/files/1/0/8/1/doublefudge.jpg

[Boogerball]

cool... bookmarked it...

[tubtar]

The drawing you posted has an R.Crumb vibe to it .......one of my heros.
He and Gilbert Shelton kept me amused and confused for much of my adolescence.
I am partial to Double Dude.
He appeals to my well honed sense of the bizarre.
Great stuff.
J.S.

[ded i]

I like Double Dude too :yesman:

Fudge Factory stuff does have a "Crumby" feel. Have you seen the documentary on R. Crumb that shows his family including the (now deceased) brother with the string? That's some bizarre shit.

It's interesting to see Crumb's artistic paternity - that is, other artists who have been influenced by Crumb. One who immediately comes to mind is the painter Philip Guston who struggled for years with realistic imagery and then started turning out images dealing with genocide and racism using a decidedly Crumby "hand" or architecture.

Philip Guston

http://www.jerzeedevil.com/gallery/files/1/0/8/1/gustoncover.jpg

http://www.jerzeedevil.com/gallery/files/1/0/8/1/gustonshoes.jpg

[Boogerball]

I always saw a simularity in R. Crumb's work and that of
Robert Williams...

http://www.jerzeedevil.com/gallery/files/1/5/6/3/willia.jpg
http://www.jerzeedevil.com/gallery/files/1/5/6/3/william.jpg
http://www.jerzeedevil.com/gallery/files/1/5/6/3/ZZZ006636-PO.jpg
http://www.jerzeedevil.com/gallery/files/1/5/6/3/williams3.jpg
http://www.jerzeedevil.com/gallery/files/1/5/6/3/williams_splash.jpg
http://www.jerzeedevil.com/gallery/files/1/5/6/3/williamsfellonius.jpg
http://www.jerzeedevil.com/gallery/files/1/5/6/3/williams2.jpg

[tubtar]

Yep , I saw the Crumb documentary when it was in the theaters....so to speak. Dysfunction at it's pinnacle , and I am still not sure if his sense of humor fits or if it is just one more uber freaky manifestation of his personality.
He seems to have stints of normalcy that led me to think it couldn't be him. Looking like an accountant might have something to do with that too.
Robert Williams has a lot of influences that pop in to his work.
I see some Ed Roth in there too.
Pretty cool stuff , Sr. Duke.
Most of the current art that I admire is concert posters for some strange reason......which is why I get birthday presents like this.
An Emek that had no trouble finding it's way to the living room wall.
J.S.

[Boogerball]

NICE.. I saw the Rev. a cople of times in Athens a few years ago... I've also got a small collection of Ed Roth stuff I'll have to (try to) photograph soon...

[ded i]

Wow that's some cool stuff. I'd love to see more. It's interesting to really look at the influences in that imagery I mean there's a lot of pop culture happening there and that's expected when the art itself becomes posters, cd art, etc.

I like to get into the "genealogy" or references from past experience of what we see, for instance - Guston was haunted by images of piles of shoes taken from people who vanished from Nazi concentration camps.

What most people see as sort of cartoonish and childish paintings are really fairly intense depictions of the artist's anguish. The paintings are "landscapes" with horizon, sky, atmosphere and sun. Landscapes of desolation left when the humans are gone.

http://www.jerzeedevil.com/gallery/files/1/0/8/1/gustonshoe.jpg

http://www.jerzeedevil.com/gallery/files/1/0/8/1/gustonsun.jpg

[Boogerball]

IIRC, Robert Williams used to build cars for/with Ed Roth, and also worked on Zap! comics with R. Crumb...

http://www.jerzeedevil.com/gallery/files/1/5/6/3/robert-williams-21.jpg
http://www.jerzeedevil.com/gallery/files/1/5/6/3/robert-williams-3.jpg
http://www.jerzeedevil.com/gallery/files/1/5/6/3/subconscious.jpg
http://www.jerzeedevil.com/gallery/files/1/5/6/3/robert-williams-2.jpg
http://www.jerzeedevil.com/gallery/files/1/5/6/3/robert-williams-4.jpg

[tubtar]

I knew he had style ! What a life .................... man I'd love to know the shit he forgot !
J.S.

[silenthunterstudios]

I know we have a lot of comics fans here. I am looking at pics of one my favorite artists works, Mitch Byrd. Found this, and some others. Thought you would like. If nothing else, he has a knack for drawing big tits...

http://www.indyplanet.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=94

http://01comics.com/index.php?page=Archive&comic=7&pg=17

http://www.jerzeedevil.com/gallery/files/6/4/7/29sqnckx.jpg

http://www.jerzeedevil.com/gallery/files/6/4/7/01_MB03_02.jpg

http://www.amazon.com/s?ie=UTF8&search-type=ss&index=books&field-author=Mitch%20Byrd&page=1

http://www.jerzeedevil.com/gallery/files/6/4/7/16d0_12.jpg

[silenthunterstudios]

Back when I was buying original comic book art, I was going to get this guy to do a commission for me. He also does real life art, not just cartoons. We were going back and forth on a price, and he became a born again. Got out of it for a while. We talked some more, and he came back to drawing what he had been drawing, erotica, and he posted on his website that he loves Jesus, and loves big tits. Its been some years since I talked to him last, but he seemed like a good guy. Some wild stuff, I've seen comics of his. If I had the money, I'd like to get one of his real art pieces. He did one of Chloe Vevrier as some superheroine. He said she posed for him in his studio.

http://www.axebone.com/

[Medium John]

Whats your favorite? If it's something not listed, tell us, and why!

MJ

[Poolshark]

I know Batman has his fans and deservedly so. Superman always made me want to puke. His powers made no sense and were way too godlike.
I always felt Marvel put out better artwork. More interesting hero's too.
Look at Ant-man. The size of an ant with the power of a human being. That's it? He's tiny and strong as a regular person? Well how can he be superhero? Captain America as strong a human can be + a shield. Daredevil, Blind with radar. X-men, powerful but human flaws and hated by the people they help. Superman was the Stong-est. Flash was the fast-est. Green lantern was just odd. "I have a ring that make a punchy-fist out of green light."

[Medium John]

I always thought that DC's second stringers were more interesting then some of Marvels A team, but if I had to state one reason why I prefered DC, it's probably because so many of Marvels heros are so damned whiny.

MJ

[Umberto]

I started on DC pretty young, loved em all, Superman, Batman, Aquaman, Green Arrow & Lantern, not so crazy about WWoman, (who has an invisible airplane?), got older and graduated to war comics, Sgt Rock, that Indian P51 pilot Johnny Thunder or something. Thats when I discovered Sgt Fury & his Howling Commandos on Marvel, and from that I discovered Spiderman which was a whole new world, then to all the other Marvels, which I read into college.

Marvel was just for an older age group I think.

Now I just read old Carl Barks'.

Ya know what has been lost over the years is that originally Batman's main ability was as a detective.

[Medium John]

hmmm.. good point that about Batmans detective ability, not sure if it's been renewed in recent years, possibly.

Ahh.. Sgt Rock ~grin~ Shame war stories are politically incorrect these days.

MJ

[ppc6mm]

I prefer Independent publishers or Underground comix. I'm no a fan of super heroes, exaggerated anatomy, or men in tights, so DC or Marvel don't warrant my hard earned dollars.....

[Boogerball]

I prefer Independent publishers or Underground comix. I'm no a fan of super heroes, exagerated anatomy, or men in tights, so DC or Marvel don't warrant my hard earned dollars.....

+1 on the ghey-ass super heroes...LOL

I always liked Kitchen Sink Press for the art werk and hero dosage of drugs

[Medium John]

What about the DC/Vertigo Titles like Hellblazer or Preacher?

MJ

[ppc6mm]

The only time I will buy a conventional comic is if Wrightson, Kaluta, Jones, Frazetta, Stout, Nino', Severin, Wood, Williamson, or other classic illustrators have work in them.

[2fulhundin]

that is tuff to decide I lived south of DC for awhile and it pretty much sucked, and I have never been to Marvel but I imagine it is sorta like Baltimore. and that is why I moved my ass back to the country.... s yes whatcha talking bout willlis is my final answer....:decisions

[Boone]

Dark Horse

http://www.irishblogs.ie/images/122175.jpg

Top Cow

http://image.comicvine.com/uploads/vol/8000/7300/7300-51962-1-witchblade_400.jpg

[Umberto]

my #1 fave artist would have to be Steve Ditko.
but then I live in the past, comics-wise.

[Mr.LaBella]

Top Cow is good. I have Witchblade tattooed on the back of my arm :madaddy:

[Boone]

Top Cow is good. I have Witchblade tattooed on the back of my arm :madaddy:

No way! I've got one on the side of my arm!!!

http://img170.imageshack.us/img170/7412/1001353tj7.jpg

[Bruce]

Growing up in the age of 12 cent comic books, I never realized there was much of a difference. DC's seemed to be much more prevelent though. Actually, I liked Harvey comics! :bruce:

[Drivetech]

I think that I liked DC a little better, but overall didn't really have any preference.
JLA, JSA, Legion of Superheroes, probably weren't as good in the long run as Avengers, X-men, or FF4, but I liked them. Legion got really good for a while, great artwork and off-beat stories.

DC had Lobo, and Marvel had Wolverine, wonder who would win the beer drinking contest?

I liked their Jonah Hex, Sgt Rock, and Warlord books better than comparable Marvel books, although Marvel's Conan ruled!

The DC Vertigo line rocked, Sandman and Hellblazer were great series, and Doom Patrol had promise.

American Flagg, Jon Sable freelance were pretty good independents, especially Flagg. It was sorta hard to find independents around here, most of what I could find was at drug stores or gas stations...

[silenthunterstudios]

I can't find my comics guy cap. I still read Hellboy, been giving away most of my older comics, except for a few. Dark Knight Returns, Weapon x.

[rudechuck]

I'd have to go with Marvel overall, but the one I always looked forward to was The Badger from First Comics: A former POW martial arts expert with multiple personality disorder who can communicate with animals.

http://comicbookdb.com/graphics/comic_graphics/1/82/44469_20060608182211_large.jpg

[Peter Lezard]

Mostly Marvel back in the day. Punisher, Ghostrider, X-men, and yes I'll say it, G.I. Joe. I haven't bought one in at least 15 years now. But I'm a comics nerd for life I guess...

[Medium John]

I've got an absolute load of 2000ADs from about ten years ago that I need to clear out, I need the space something chronic, any UKers want them?

MJ

[Matt Cohen]

Florian is one of my favorite artists of the modern day, and the avatar that I use was done by him. I was first introduced to his artwork through album covers, especially the ones he did for the band Agoraphobic Nosebleed (who are badass in their own right IMO).

Check it!!!!

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g213/necrotik666/convergetourfin2or6.jpg

[ded i]

Nice :yesman: :ssmile:

[SugarSkull]

Great style. I like 'em.:ernie:

[Matt Cohen]

A few more I found on his myspace page!

This guy is definitely JD material!!! :semper:

[ded i]

I like the Alphonse Mucha influence


http://www.jerzeedevil.com/gallery/files/1/0/8/1/alphonse_mucha_dance.jpeg
http://www.jerzeedevil.com/gallery/files/1/0/8/1/mucha.jpg

[thegreatbeast666]

I especially like his Baphomet. You can also tell he is influenced by Mike Miglona...

[ded i]

Mike Mignola - that's interesting ... do you have an example you could post?
Thnx.

[thegreatbeast666]

I think his structure and form is similar to Mignolas stuff, and color scheme in a few pieces reflects the simplicity of comic art. I'll see if I can scan some of Mignola's sketchbook stuff that I have, and some stuff from his other art.

[xrayzebra]

I'm not that familiar with either guy, but thanks for posting them.

I'm looking for the "influence," but maybe you'll post some more examples?

I see that both of them have used some iddly-squiddly-octopussy looking creatures, but Mignola's is more organic, and Florian's is more stylized.

I do see a lot more in common between Florian's Agarophobic Nosebleed pix and the examples of Mignola. All of the ones with black backgrounds have other aspects in common. If I was just looking at those, it would be easier to connect them.

Florian's other stuff uses a lot of Mucha-like formal composition with borders and framing of spaces with lines, and Mignola's totally devoid of such devices, more open and less formal.

Both, of course, use certain themes - demons and the like. Florian borrows a LOT more from classic fine art, not only Mucha's Nouveau compositions, but the kind of pink/red picture with the women with flowers in their hair also paraphrases one of my faves, El Bosco, aka Heironymous Bosch, from more like the late 1400s - early 1500s.

http://www.jerzeedevil.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=29273&stc=1&d=1214782025

http://www.jerzeedevil.com/forums/showthread.php?t=29638&highlight=bosch

http://www.artchive.com/artchive/b/bosch/judge_c.jpg


The writhing frenzy of that one, with the demons entwined with human subjects, includes figures that might have been lifted directly from Bosch.

http://www.artchive.com/artchive/b/bosch/hevnhell.jpg

Bosch, of course, is the artist that everyone should know from their first startling random childhood encounter with art that portrayed something way beyond normal experience. I remember, during a rainy-day indoor recess in about 4th grade, a friend bringing me an encyclopedia with a detail from Garden of Earthly Delights, and how we ooohed and aaahed over it like it was a porno mag accidentally left where we could get it.

(Examples here are NOT from Garden of Earthly Delights, for more on Bosch, see http://www.artchive.com/artchive/B/bosch.html

http://www.artchive.com/artchive/b/bosch/tempt_c.jpg

Mignola's work as posted here seems to depict more organic forms, without embellishment, albeit thru the typical convention of comic book inking, while Florian's has a lot more embellishment with geometric shapes and repeated patterns and motifs. It's still mostly black outlines and colored fields, but there's a lot more precise patterning of surfaces, while Mignola uses a more random pattern texture on the octopus pictured with Abe Sapien.

Don't get me wrong - I like 'em both, and you probably have good reasons for saying there's a link. I haven't seen much of either guy's work, and I'm, seeing more differences than similarities, once I strip away the necessary, shared conventions of comic book art.

Mignola uses a kind of "wood cut" texturing on the taloned creature attacking Abe, and on the face of the woman in the blue dress.

Mignola's stuff is more sparse and economical in use of line and space, and Florian's is just jam packed with more detail than my eye can take in all at once. I like Mignola's color sense better than Florian's. Some of Florian's would make more sense as black and white pen and ink without color at all, or with very subtle color like Mucha. But, there's more the sense of an old 60s black light poster to Florian, and those always had a very limited, awkward palette. Mignola's stuff seems to have more of a sense of a duotone (black and white with variations of a single color or colors close to each otehr on the color wheel) or complimentary color scheme (opposites on the color wheel like blue and orange) - Florian's colors, I just don't get.

I think Mignola owes more to Socialist propaganda art than to the much older influences in Florian. This one:

http://www.jerzeedevil.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=30165&stc=1&d=1217104414
is the most obvious example, though I'm not going to go off in search of a bunch of Socialist art right now - I've probably made everyone lose interest in this thread already. :) But, I'll give a few examples:

http://www.craphound.com/images/societpropagandavdv.jpg

http://www.freesoftwaremagazine.com/files/nodes/1707/soviet_propaganda.jpg

http://antohins.vtheatre.net/pix/pre-war5.jpg

I don't know what's up with this last one, it's an obvious parody of the genre I am talking about, but it may be worthy of its own thread:

http://www.scarysquirrel.org/vacation/nkorea/kposter1.jpg

[thegreatbeast666]

I'll find some better examples of Mignola's work for you. I't funny that you mention Bosch...He's definately one of my favorite artists of all time. Speaking of "The Garden of Earthly Delights," have you seen these: http://www.3d-mouseion.com/engels/bosch_eng.htm
MIgnola's pieces generally do have a woodcut type feel to them, in fact he has been known to use Durer's woodcuts as aspects in the background of some of his comics.
The connection where I see the most similarity is also with Florian's album art. Then, picture Matt posted of the wolf looks very similar to a female wolf in Mignola's "Hellboy" in the "Wolves of St. August" storyline

I will scan more examples.

Sorry to Hijack this thread Matt...

[xrayzebra]

Fuckin' ay! Your reference to Durer wood cuts totally trumps my prior comments. :) Nice. Elevates the entire conversation.

Oddly, I see more connection between the Florian work posted and Durer than Mignola, so I am definitely missing something, and will have to look up Mignola now. Thanks.

http://www.conncoll.edu/visual/Durer-prints/apocalypse.all/big/Box%2022-09.jpg

http://www.conncoll.edu/visual/Durer-prints/apocalypse.all/big/Box%2022-04.jpg

[xrayzebra]

(Except that NOW, I am off to find Robert Fludd woodcuts.)

But, isn't Durer amazing? Hard to imagine that these are prints from wooden blocks cut down to these images. The man must have had some bitchin' knives.

[ded i]

(Except that NOW, I am off to find Robert Fludd woodcuts.)

But, isn't Durer amazing? Hard to imagine that these are prints from wooden blocks cut down to these images. The man must have had some bitchin' knives.


Just to avoid confusion - wood block prints are made by cutting lines into wood - applied ink fills cut crevices and the block is carefully wiped to remove excess ink - the block is then pressed against paper which deposits the ink on the surface of the paper .

It is an Intaglio process -

Intaglio is the collective term for printmaking techniques (including engraving and etching) where the image is formed by lines and crevices cut below the surface rather than by an image raised above the rest of the printing (called "relief")

[thegreatbeast666]

I really still want to scan these to show you, but got antsy. I was contending with a camera, an over-size art book and a three year old...

[xrayzebra]

Pix came out pretty good, though - nice stuff.

[TacoMan5000]

Or graphic novels, whatever you want to call them. Anyone know of any? Preferably with cool monsters and shit. Post-apocalyptic is always good.

[SugarSkull]

My old collection was from Forrest J Ackerman. Creepy, Eerie, Famous Monsters of Filmland, and Vampirella.

The man had style.:devilzeek

[norcal13]

i've always loved the sandman series.
good shit ,multiple cultures gods.
not so heavy on post -apocalyptic though.

[silenthunterstudios]

I got all of mine from fleamarkets, comic shop dollar bins, and mail order, go for the old EC comics graphic novel reprints. Weird Science etc were all very good, a lot of Lovecraft themes going on, along with Ray Bradbury type stuff. Star Wars comics with art by Al Williamson had some neat monsters. There have been some good ones recently, like Hellboy, check out Weird War Tales from DC. I've gotten rid of a lot of comics, but kept all of my Hellboy and monster comics. Check out Xenozoic Tales, one of the best comics ever made.

http://www.jerzeedevil.com/gallery/files/6/4/7/01timein6fe.jpg

[ppc6mm]

Deadworld, http://www.garyreed.net/Deadworld/home.htm , by Vincent Locke is a good Zombie Comic series http://www.garyreed.net/Deadworld/DEADWORLD/thestory.htm http://www.vincelocke.com/index.htm , so is the Walking Dead by Robert Kirkman http://www.comicvine.com/the-walking-dead/49-18166/ ..... I've got them all, but Vinces work is the best.....

As mentioned above the Warren Publishing magazines, http://www.milehighcomics.com/comicindex/Publisher-Warren-Publishing-Company-WARR.html , Eerie, Creepy, Vampirella, 1984 & 1994, have excellent art & themes.....

The William Gaines published EC Comic have some of the best art & stories to ever printed http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EC_Comics .....

[Hurricane76]

u gotta try the preacher series by garth ennis dc/vertigo or just check out garth ennis period one of the greatest comic writes of all time :wes:

[unsub]

I just was posting about how freaking great Garth Ennis on the Punisher thread.

For monsters and Lovecraft type stuff with real intelligence nobody beats Warren Ellis. The only comic of his i have uploaded to my photobucket though is "Crecy" his historical archer war one.
http://i529.photobucket.com/albums/dd337/Unsubb/crecy.jpg

Ed brubaker is another fantastic author.
http://i529.photobucket.com/albums/dd337/Unsubb/comicscan2006.jpg

For post apocalyptic fiction with brains check out DMZ by Brian Wood.

[TacoMan5000]

Thanks, everyone. Gotta write these down...

[spartan117]

Nobody mentioned Vampire Hunter D or Berserk, which were both produced as graphic novels/manga. They're worth a look if you haven't already.

Cheers,
Ja:thumbsup:

[Zombie]

The Walking Dead comic. Zombies, of course.



My wife bought me the first three hardbound editions for Christmas. Pretty good read.

[Mr.LaBella]

Tinysd is a comic nerd:cool_notcool:

[lachrymalex]

i prefer Marvel over DC, but the best comic ever was "the Maxx," which was put out on Image.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v639/filmfreak23/maxx.jpg

i won't even try to explain the story; you just have to read it.

[txkaratedude]

I read all the Superman/Batman/Hulk/Flash comics as a kid, and wieh I still had them. I got into comics again as a middleaged adult and a friend showed me Valiant Comics, which targeted mature demographics. They had X-O Man-o-War, Bloodshot, Eternal Warrior, Harbinger, Turok and some others I can't remember right now.
Bone is another good read, just a bit different.

[NEWT]

Marvel for me. i have read some Dark Horse and first comics though. Moon knight was my favorite.

[mwalex3012]

Valiant did make excellent comics and they are trying to come back.

I've always preferred independents but like DC over Marvel for mainstream comics. Marvel has decided to publish as many titles as possible instead of going for quality.

[lachrymalex]

one of the best storylines in a comic as the "Born Again" story arc of Daredevil back in 1986: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daredevil:_Born_Again

[silenthunterstudios]

i prefer Marvel over DC, but the best comic ever was "the Maxx," which was put out on Image.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v639/filmfreak23/maxx.jpg

i won't even try to explain the story; you just have to read it.

For a couple of issues, I tried. If you like Sam Keith, did you ever read Epicurius the Sage?

I found my old Xenozoic Tales issues, some of the best comics ever made.

[Fenlore]

Can't really say which I like better... in the end I might have to go with marvel by sheer quantity of the heroes I like, but both have great heroes. Always did prefere the ones that weren't superheroes though, like batman and of course iron man and the like. The Hulk is plain old awesomes, same with Thor, that fucker is friggin cool.

My favourites though would have to be from 90's tv though, as in SpiderMan, Batman and X-men. Those cartoons were great, nothing compares... except of course transformers, but that's another catagory of awesome altogether.

[spartan117]

They're all pretty good, but Marvel edges out the others for me.

FWIW, I liked the variety of angels and devils such as the Silver Surfer and the Midnight Sons, respectively. Something about the tormented angelic figure appeals to me. Galactus represented aspects of pseudo godhood in a way that paints the otioise in a better light. Morbius had some great neo-gothic artwork going for it in the first few issues of the second run. Doctor Strange got into these themes occasionally.

Spidey vs. Venom was great. It's a toss-up between Galactus and Venom as to whom I like best.

Cheers,
Ja

[unsub]

I buy comics the way I buy other books ,by author not title or publisher.
Ellis ,Garth Ennis ,Brubaker ,Miller and Bendis are the big names where if you pick up anything by them it will be good.

Ennis is known for Preacher which is awesome but he does a mean War comic.
His War Tales series on Vertigo was particularly awesome as it was all true stories and from interesting battles that have not been done before.
I am so tired of hearing about the US paratroopers in WW2.
He also does a fantastic job on Punisher on Marvel MAX

I did choose marvel because every month my pile of comics is 2/3ds marvel and the rest a mix of indys and DC. Vertigo and Wildstorm are 2 good DC labels,if you include those it would be a lot closer a race.

If you have not bought a comic in 10 years check out the Vertigo "First Taste" digests. They are about 6$ and have about the 5 best Vertigo comics of the last year. You will find at least 1 title in it you will want to pick up.
I actually had every single comic already when the last one came out.

If you like the TV show heroes you should definitely get "POWERS" by Bendis on his own ICON label.

If you like noir shows like "Pulp Fiction" then you want Brubakers "CRIMINAL" on ICON as well.

If you like Full metal jacket and Kill Generation or Enemy at the Gates then garth Ennis War Tales or pretty much any war comic he does.


Sons of Anarchy just finished downloading so I have to go now:ross:

[rooikat]

Glad I found this post. Gotta write all this stuff down.

[TacoMan5000]

Update: Finally got a bunch!! So far, I've got several issues of: The Walking Dead, Dead Irons, No Hero, Crossed, Mirror's Edge, Just A Pilgrim. Getting into a couple new ones too. Some are good (Walking Dead, No Hero) some kinda...aren't (Mirror's Edge). I'm really digging the work by both of the Ennises.

[Nebuchadnezzar]

I just finished TransmetropolitanVol. 2 Lust for Life, and am really enjoying it. Spider Jerusalem is a wonderful "hero" with a colorful vocabulary and a delightfully twisted outlook of life, but he always manages to do the right thing and is more of a true hero than I would care to admit.

I'm not much for the comic book medium, preferring to just read and visualize everything myself, however I'm starting to change my point of view. As a gamer/nerd I have always been around comics but never paid much attention to them, so I could use a push in the right direction as to which comics are worth reading. Mainstream superheros really don't appeal to me that much, if I had to pick a favorite I would go with Batman, just a normal guy with some serious training, dedication, and allot of neat toys. Superman is probably my least favorite, what fun is a guy who's invulnerable to damned near everything. Superheros that have some unusual powers, or use their powers in unconventional ways are much more my style.

So, I beseech my fellow Devils, what comics should I check out?

http://www.jerzeedevil.com/gallery/files/2/1/6/5/transmetropolitan.png

[rio]

richard colbert's work, ferry freak brothers, axterix come to mind:devil1:

[Mr.LaBella]

Ultimate Alliance?:schmoove:

[Peter Lezard]

I remember that... I thought it was like Chevy and Ford teaming up to make a car...

But at least we are not the only ones asking the question; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1n3VSw1XBOo

[Tony8179]

I was always a big fan of Marvel. I have a huge collection of Wolverine starting at #1 and going all the way up to #72 or so. The Punisher was also always a favorite, as well as the X-Men, and Cable.

Dark Horse was always a favorite of mine as well. They started doing all the Predator, Aliens, and Aliens Vs. Predator comics and I was always in to those series.

[Tank Buster]

The only hero I like from DC is Batman. Marvel has a lot of heros that I like, so +1 for Marvel.

[wynter]

Between the big two, Marvel, just because of Garth Ennis's run on Punisher Max.

[TacoMan5000]

I like Avatar, Indie, couple others. Not really a fan of the big ones.

[JohnnyBmore]

The only comic Im up to date on & follow is " the walking Dead" Image comics ...

[silenthunterstudios]

This needs a bump! WTF is out there other than Hellboy, BPRD and the "real" (no superheroes) Punisher book.

[TacoMan5000]

A God Somewhere, No Hero, DMZ, Dead Irons.

[Peter Lezard]

I'm getting to old for this stuff...not that the new stuff is not good, as much of it is. But all this "reboot" stories just leave me cold. Just my two cents.

[silenthunterstudios]

SPOILERS AHEAD







I figured, what better to do, when traffic is backed up and you can't get any cellphone reception. Take a detour to your favorite neighborhood comic shop. I just read that Hellboy is dead! Shit, I gotta wait until next year to find out what happens to him.

[ded i]

Fun stuff!

- I'm reading 'American Gods' (a novel) by Neil Gaiman - who wrote 'The Sandman' graphic novel series ... with dynamite cover art, btw.

from wiki:

"The Sandman was one of Vertigo's flagship titles, and is available as a series of ten trade paperbacks. It has also been reprinted in a recolored four-volume Absolute hardcover edition with slipcase. Critically acclaimed, The Sandman is one of the few graphic novels ever to be on the New York Times Best Seller list, along with Watchmen and The Dark Knight Returns."

[TacoMan5000]

Bump. The Sandman is an awesome comic; I wish that I had kept it when I moved, but I gave all of my TPBs away. Right now I am stuck on Saga, being published by Image press, and Ferals, being published by Avatar. The resurgence of Valiant is pretty cool too.

[SlightChance]

I am not really into comics, but I picked up a Goon collection in color and highly recommend it. I have never laughed so hard at the line "knife to the eye"

definitely pick it up yall

[silenthunterstudios]

I only read Hellboy anymore. I took a look at ALL the comics offered by the shop I get mine at, and NOTHING interested me.

NOTHING.

Wolverine and Batman didn't even look good. :devilzeek

[TacoMan5000]

I only read Hellboy anymore. I took a look at ALL the comics offered by the shop I get mine at, and NOTHING interested me.

NOTHING.

Wolverine and Batman didn't even look good. :devilzeek

There are so many different storylines for both of them, it is hard to know where to start. They have both been around for a very long time.

[wcjohn]

I only read Hellboy anymore. I took a look at ALL the comics offered by the shop I get mine at, and NOTHING interested me.

NOTHING.

Wolverine and Batman didn't even look good. :devilzeek

Have you read the Long Halloween? That's a good Batman story. Not old but not new.

[corjzg]

I had been out of the comic game since the early 90s. My faves back then were Batman, Wolverine, Punisher, Ghost Rider, & a few others. After watching the first 2 seasons of the Walking Dead, I researched the comic book series that spawned the TV series, & had to check them out. I tore through Compendiums 1 & 2, which combine to encompass issues 1-100 (the series is still going too!). They're about $35 each on ebay ($60 ea. retail at B&N) and total a bit over 2000 pgs. A must read for any fan of the series, and reading comix is a lot quicker than books for any comic-noobz scared of the page count!

PS: You may also find the series at your local library, broken down into graphic novel-form, believe they go #1-18 or so...

[Ravenclaw]

I had been out of the comic game since the early 90s. My faves back then were Batman, Wolverine, Punisher, Ghost Rider, & a few others. After watching the first 2 seasons of the Walking Dead, I researched the comic book series that spawned the TV series, & had to check them out. I tore through Compendiums 1 & 2, which combine to encompass issues 1-100 (the series is still going too!). They're about $35 each on ebay ($60 ea. retail at B&N) and total a bit over 2000 pgs. A must read for any fan of the series, and reading comix is a lot quicker than books for any comic-noobz scared of the page count!

PS: You may also find the series at your local library, broken down into graphic novel-form, believe they go #1-18 or so...

Idk man I read a ton of the walking dead before it was made into a show(they have played down the brutality of the comic so much in the show) and after reading a crazy amount of it back to back, comic after comic I found that it just got so depressing. I know people like the comic for the immense hardship and how the people in the comic react to it and how they become so inhumane and more uncivilized but I don't know after so much death and seeing some of the characters just get so so messed up I had to call it quits. It was pretty wicked just too depressing for me after awhile.

[rudechuck]

:bump: for Free Comic Book Day (http://www.freecomicbookday.com/Home/1/1/27/992) :ross: (wheee!) this Saturday, May 4. If you have kids (and even if you don't), locate your local participating comic book shop and go get your swag. They usually have other stuff going on (food trucks, face painting, autograph signings, who knows?).

[22MEANTXGUNS22]

I remember very vividly as a child my uncle had single issues of Watchmen before it was published as a single graphic novel, my parents would have kittens when I tried to read it but I didn't understand why because I figured comics were for kids, little did I know at the time how far it was from a little kid's comic book. When I finally got my hands on the graphic novel in high school I could see why, none the less it was a great read that stayed with me and remains one of my favorite graphic novels till this day.

[TacoMan5000]

I remember very vividly as a child my uncle had single issues of Watchmen before it was published as a single graphic novel, my parents would have kittens when I tried to read it but I didn't understand why because I figured comics were for kids, little did I know at the time how far it was from a little kid's comic book. When I finally got my hands on the graphic novel in high school I could see why, none the less it was a great read that stayed with me and remains one of my favorite graphic novels till this day.

I did not really enjoy the comic or the movie. They both got excellent reviews, but I could not like them overly much.

[krhen]

I'm a Marvel bigot all the way :manganr:

Was an X-Man fan back before it was "fashionable". Defenders, and the original Guardians of the Galaxy - awesome stuff.

My dad told me I should take care of my comics and one day they'd be worth lots of money...

So I punched holes in them and put them in binders...

true (sad) story. Entire Dark Phoenix saga MINT except for three holes against the spine

Hey I was just a youngins... :devilroll:

Second big comic fail - a friend was moving away and said I could have ONE of his comics before he left. It was between Giant Sized X-Men 1 (which you could sell and buy a small car for nowdays) OR a giant-sized Hulk something or other. ..

Went with the Hulk...

I still cry about that when I'm alone at night in the dark...

[wcjohn]

There's worst things to cry about when your alone at night in the dark. :cry:....:manganr:

[TacoMan5000]

Any of the geeky devils have the Sandman trade paperbacks they might be willing to part with? I got rid of most of my comics when I went to Florida, and I wish I had them back.