The first "I'll take it" - what it means to you...

[gmofo]

Upon Mr. LaBella's suggestion, I am posting this here. Poll and commentary. I am curious as to how other Devils perceive this matter. I am unequivocally on the the side of a post in an open thread trumps behind the scene discussions. If not, then why post it for sale and potentially waste peoples' time looking?

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Background:

1. Sales thread with a knife that is priced to sell or a very difficult piece that most people know will go quickly at that price.

2. Seller states the knife will sell to "the first I'll take it". No other conditions.

3. "I'll take it" is taken to generally mean that the person writing "I'll take it" agrees with the listed price, not a strategic "I'll take it" to scare off other potential buyers and provide a window to negotiate.

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To you, and in your impression, what does this mean?

1. "I'll take it" in the thread trumps emails or PM.

2. "I'll take it" in the thread is just one of many ways to state you will take it.

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I fully understand that nobody is obligated to sell or buy, and can do some from, and to, whomever.

However, I venture that the sellers here have dealt with BS posters who say in the thread "I'll take it", only to follow on with a PM with a counter-offer price. For the seller, the openly stated "I'll take it" takes the sheen off the listing to other potential buyers since the item appears to have been sold, or at least priority to the first poster.

Not fair to the seller to f@ck around, basically, and a person's rep will suffer, and rightly so.

If a potential buyer wants to make a counter offer or is not 100% sure, then that is when PM or email is used. At least that is my experience. If I don't want to pay the listed $500, I may send the seller a PM or email with a counteroffer, fully understanding that the item may go for full freight while I play f@ck around f@ck around.

I have also had on more than one occasion when I have sent a PM'd "I'll take it" to be told that the guy who put it in the thread has priority. A few experiences like this, and I understood.

[Soup_Monger]

Sometimes a buyer does not want to advertise that they are buying.

So... I find it easier just to work on the "time stamp" principle... regardless of how I was contacted.

People that write "Email sent" make me want to ban them... and lowball "offers"?... well... we all love to get a PM with something like...

"Hey Bro... sweet knife... I really want it but I can't stretch to $200.... but I can give you $140 and throw in SAK with a damaged tip and a set of BBQ tongs (slightly rusted)".

[choombak]

Forcing to post "I'll take it" in the thread reduces the chances of conflicts introduced by race conditions (which came first? the post, the email or the PM), auto-reps the potential buyer, and ensures fairness in the deal.

As a seller or a buyer, I like (in the same order or preference):
(a) "I'll take it" followed by a prompt payment.
(b) "I'll take it, pending response to PM/email" - when the potential buyer wants to discuss some aspects - condition, price. This is okay, respecting the privacy of individuals. If thing go okay, prompt payment, else retract offer.
(c) Email sent, with no clue on the intention.

I am guilty of #c, but over time I have realized that #a works the best, followed by #b, and rarely #c.

Additionally, I also ensure to post "Received in good condition, as described, yada, yada", which closes the loop, and helps future dealings.

-Amarendra

[Mr.LaBella]

I have had members scumbag me, as the owner of this forum, who pays for it out of the toils of my laboUr (or something)...the sweat of my efforts... The blood and tears of THIS clown! :dont:

Many people are just classless, lacking in moral constitution and out for their own damn selves.


*You know who you are!* :pissedevil:


For the record, I reserve the right to sell to whomever I damn well please and generally those who post all of these guidelines should adhere to them and do not always.

That being said for me:

Reply to the thread " I will take it."
Followed by a PM
Payment.

Read the for sale area rules as well.

http://www.jerzeedevil.com/forums/showthread.php?t=5644

[gmofo]

"Received in good condition, as described, yada, yada"

Good idea, actually. Very fair to seller too.

Caveat too, although not as common: Sellers who do not maintain their threads for crap. "Sorry, it sold last week" etc etc. Or just not get back to you. Or have 5 brazzilion knives for sale with 10 brazzilion photos to where you can't tell what remains or is sold unless you go to page 13 of the thread.

Not that all buyers are responsible either.

I like Ron's post -

1. I'll take it in the thread.
2. Followed by PM.
3. Prompt payment

[Mr.LaBella]

"Received in good condition, as described, yada, yada"

Good idea, actually. Very fair to seller too.

Sometimes unnecessary as the feedback area should be used as well :)

http://www.jerzeedevil.com/forums/showthread.php?t=22137

[singularity35]

I think that an "I'll take it" on the thread should trump a behind the scenes negotiation especially if the the negotiation is done to circumvent the fact that the negotiator is second in line and will just make a better offer.

The seller of course, has the right to choose whom to sell to but in the previous case, an answer even if negative should be communicated to the first person with the "I'll take it".

Happened to me. No communication. The item was just listed as sold without further ado.

I dunno, maybe just good manners...

[Soup_Monger]

I dunno, maybe just good manners...

It would have been good manners to have introduced yourself before starting your sales forum activity.

[Parker]

Nothing says I'll Take It like money in the paypal account.

I do not post generally post I'll Take It in a sales thread. What I buy is my business, nobody else's.

In my sales threads I indicate that email is the best route to contact me. JD pm's tend to get filtered by yahoo email and I will not see them. In fact, I specifically state "email me" which tends to get the attention of most intelligent buyers :devil1:

I have also had the "I'll Take It" posted followed by the $140 plus a used SAK and BBQ tongs offer.

So I do not care if You'll Take It. I care if you're paying for it, which is why I lead with my opening statement. :devilzeek

Oh, and you don't even have to post "Email Sent." My wife and her sister used to call each other to ask if the other had received the email just sent. Same level of useful communication. Send email, enjoy the brief wait.

One other small thing.

I tend to make a point of posting a price, inclusive of paypal fees, shipping and note that "Outside USA pays shipping costs." In the event this is unclear, it indicates that I will pay all paypal fees and shipping inside USA.

However, do NOT send payment via personal tab. One of the handiest things about the paypal/ postal interface is the ability to USE it, but sending me funds via personal tab means I can't do this easily. Or at all.

[sheneniganer]

If I were a seller, I would just go with the first person who contacted me willing to purchase my item for the amount of cash I desired. Sorry if you emailed me five minutes before the PM I just read was sent or vice versa. As for an "I'll take it" in a thread, that means nothing to me unless PM's or emails are sent.

[Guillermo]

I go with the time stamp myself. I'll post "I'll take it" or "seconds" if I am going to work and won't be online for a while. Just a way to let the seller know I'm not a tire kicker. I've seen more than a few "I'll take it" backouts etc. Like Parker said, many people don't want others to know what they are buying. I don't care but don't like some emails from sellers with similar knives for sale. Well more like the fact that they have very few posts and no feedback.

[Clydetz]

I have bought knives by using all the methods mentioned (pm's, 'I'll take it' or e-mail) except I never have asked about a 'lower' price or how about I throw in.... If I like the looks of the knife, if the asking price sounds OK to me and if I have the money on hand... it gets my nod. If the seller only gives his PayPal ID, I have to pm or e-mail him and ask if he'll accept a personal check or postal money order as payment... I do not do PayPal. I assume the 'time check' is used as to which buyer gets the knife but also realize that there could have been deals going on which I'd never be privy too or care about.

[bigbob68]

I go by time stamps and I usually do not post in the thread because I don't want people knowing what I bought. I try and be fair to first come, first served. I never try and screw anyone by telling them that I have a deal working but it is theirs if the pay full price. What comes around, goes around.

[Markous]

I don't use I'll take it if i want to buy something but if the seller specifies this condition then well, PM's or e-mail's be damned take that.

I don't use the first person who says I'll take it in a for sale thread because the option should be the buyers on how the communicate with the seller IMO.

[jzmtl]

Time stamp. Not every buyer wants to advertise "I JUST BOUGHT THIS KNIFE", in fact some forums I read don't allowed anyone other than seller to post in for sale thread to avoid any clutter or sales trashing.

Of course there's the fact I usually need to ask seller shipping info assuming they sell outside conus, in case they want to charge $100 for fedex next day air (no private seller did, some store tried to do that for a pair of pants). So I usually don't post "I'll take it" until everything is sorted and I'm ready to send payment.

[Obijuan Kenobe]

For me, being primarily a very occasional buyer (with also one trade under my belt through JD), I have tried to just follow the directions of the sales post. If Parker asks for an email, that's what I'd do.

But in general, I have always used a PM. I may have also posted 'You have a PM'. But I figured this is a friendly bump for the thread...not good?

obi

[firebolt]

well if i post i'll take it

i mean i take it,
will follow with PM / email to seller and payment afer agreement on how to ship (exstra for shipping )
( i like it fast and secure and do not mind paying extra for that )

no low balling, or fucking around

[PassinBy]

Time stamp. Not every buyer wants to advertise "I JUST BOUGHT THIS KNIFE", in fact some forums I read don't allowed anyone other than seller to post in for sale thread to avoid any clutter or sales trashing.

Of course there's the fact I usually need to ask seller shipping info assuming they sell outside conus, in case they want to charge $100 for fedex next day air (no private seller did, some store tried to do that for a pair of pants). So I usually don't post "I'll take it" until everything is sorted and I'm ready to send payment.

I second that.

[Tony8179]

The first person to contact me telling me that they will take via the thread, through Email, or through PM gets it. I also like to say in my thread first come, first served. I may have the same things for sale elsewhere and it always goes by time stamp. If the first person to contact me makes me a lowball offer I simply tell them that the price is firm and if they want to pay my asking price then it is theirs, if not I move on to the next interested party. I don't care if someone contacts me and tells me they will offer me more for something, I will sell to the first interested party. There may be times where I don't want to ship out of the country or even to a certain individual. It's my choice and more money isn't going to change my mind. I'd like to think I do it the right way and that I do good by the people who buy something from me.

[grrr925]

Not fair to the seller to f@ck around, basically, and a person's rep will suffer, and rightly so.

If a potential buyer wants to make a counter offer or is not 100% sure, then that is when PM or email is used. At least that is my experience. If I don't want to pay the listed $500, I may send the seller a PM or email with a counteroffer, fully understanding that the item may go for full freight while I play f@ck around f@ck around.

especially well said. Negotiate all you want, but dont say youll take it unless you will as its listed, have made this "boo-boo" myself
and havent again since. its extremely bad form.

[siriusaudio]

As a seller, I will honor the time stamp rule as long as the person interested is abiding by the rules I have set. Too many times, I've had assholes from overseas keep offering more and more money for me to ship it overseas when I have specifically stated that I DO NOT SHIP INTERNATIONAL (except to Canada). I've had rude non-posters here offer me more money even after I have told them that the item is already sold. THat gets red.

ANyways, back to the point...

I prefer to have someone post an "I'll take it" in the thread because my email filters are pretty tight, and that post notice will alert me to the fact that someone's interested. I like to cover my bases so I've gotten into the habit of asking for a thread post AND a PM/email so that I can make sure that I am on point.

[jujigatame]

I can understand a buyer not wanting the "I'll take it" out there for all to see. However, if I ask for an "I'll take it" in the thread then I would like the buyer to respect the request just as I would respect what they ask for when they are selling something. It's a two way street.

[RoadFish]

Having been jerked around by several who posted, "I'll take it", I think email response with transaction details is the only way I will go in the future. I don't even want to see "I'll take it" in the thread as it seems to mean nothing to some and makes others think that the deal is done.

[kenkls]

i see a lot of sales thread like that,
which a seller offers something for sale, and somebody saids i will take it,
and an hour later, its back for sale. I assume this what we talking about here. It bugs the shit outta me for a while, but i guess that if i didn't take up the offer in the first place, i didn't want it bad enough. So.. i am good.

However, for the sake of the conversation.
I do believe that buyers should have more sense and at least try to commit to when they publicly state that they will buy something. most buyer will state trade options, otherwise, PM to confirm the product is exactly what you are buying, and pay the damn thing.

[gmofo]

Certainly food for thought. I thank you all for sharing. I thought it would be much more on the side of "I'll take it" in the thread has priority.

I think this has veered a bit from my original intent or question - recent sales thread said:

"First I'll take it gets it". I posted I'll take it in the thread, followed by a PM.

Seller said somebody sent a PM and beat me to it.

With the caveat of a seller can sell to whomever he chooses, it proved to be a waste of my time.

1. Had the buyer put in the thread "I'll take it", I would have stopped reading there and moved on.

2. My question is/was - What does "The first I'll take it" mean?

As a buyer, I'll take it in the thread means I look elsewhere. This was not the case. I put money aside and the deal was on my radar, only to be told that it had been sold by PM. Waste of my time.

As a seller, I prefer the I'll take it in the thread (it has priority until I mark item SPF or erase it completely after it's paid) precisely because "I'll take it" results in much less frivolous emails or PMs that follow on after an item is a solid SPF or sold.

I understand privacy concerns - that's why I don't say on the rare occasion when I have sold - "Knife XYZ sold for $1500 to Billy Jones of Fayetteville, AK. Drop him a line at Billybob@gmail.com if you want to jack him for the knife!" Some sellers put out way too much info - who bought the knife, how much it went for etc. IMO, deal should be a closed deal. Somebody writes to ask what it went for - my answer is, "I don't remember", as it is nobody's business except the buyer and sell. "Who bought it?" "I don't remember; I had his email, but can't find it. Sorry."

None of this is meant as a flame on the Devil who posted the item for sale then - I think both buyers and sellers are curious about perception and/or proper etiquette.

Most proper etiquette is to pay for the f@cking item you have purchased at the price that you agreed to, as a buyer, and, as a seller, to not misrepresent your item in words or with bullshit, out of focus photos (macro button on your camera - the "rose" symbol - is your friend).

In an ideal world where Ron has loads of time, maybe a "buy it now" function could be added to the for sale forum. HOWEVER, if Ron were to do this upgrade, I'd fully expect, as a seller, for the JD to get a % on the sale.

[gmofo]

Another danger/unfairness to a seller with dickwads buyer who says "I'll take it" in thread, seller marks it SPF, buyer backs out, then seller has to put it up again is thus:

- It creates the perception, for better or worse, that something might be wrong with the knife and that is why the first buyer backed out. Not fair to the seller.

Bottom line: If you say you'll take it in the open thread, you damn well need to buy it.

If suddenly you lose your job five minutes later or whatever bullshit excuse a lot of guys come up with, well...I guess the seller can decide on that one. JD has a good feedback area for this reason.

Other caveat for all sides:

- If a seller did not sell to you, he did not rip you off.

- If a buyer notifies you shortly after receiving the knife that it is significantly different than described (and your photos were shitty to begin with), you did at least attempt to rip the buyer off and should return the money. As a seller, you know if you are fibbing - don't try the bullshit of, "Golly gee, it wasn't like that when I sent it out. It was perfect"...yeah, except for the bolster that is scratched to hell on the backside of the knife, where you conveniently did not photo.


i see a lot of sales thread like that,
which a seller offers something for sale, and somebody saids i will take it,
and an hour later, its back for sale. I assume this what we talking about here. It bugs the shit outta me for a while, but i guess that if i didn't take up the offer in the first place, i didn't want it bad enough. So.. i am good.

However, for the sake of the conversation.
I do believe that buyers should have more sense and at least try to commit to when they publicly state that they will buy something. most buyer will state trade options, otherwise, PM to confirm the product is exactly what you are buying, and pay the damn thing.

[RoadFish]

Another thought. Is "I'll take it" the entry into a verbal and binding contract?

[shakie]

You're at a Jackson Barret auction and you raise your hand and say I'll take it you better have the loot! If you don't want anyone to know, you do it by phone, and you better have the loot. Or you're at Toys are Us buying the last coolest game for your kid and you say I'll take it, you better have the loot. Same here. This is just the electronic version of the real world and the same rules apply.

[singularity35]

It would have been good manners to have introduced yourself before starting your sales forum activity.

I did. And I have been posting here. Not a lot but a few.

[Soup_Monger]

I did. And I have been posting here. Not a lot but a few.

Give me a link to your introduction thread.

[Clydetz]

I have one question... If you go by the datestamp of a pm, 'I'll take it' or e-mail, I notice the time of the pm or 'I'll take it' coincide with the correct time yet the time of an e-mail can be 'off' by several hours. I've gotten e-mails (hotmail) with a timestamp of say... 1:08am and the person has told me they sent it around 9:00pm the evening before. I've grown to not trust the datestamp of my e-mails. I was wondering how do you get your e-mail times to coincide with the correct time? I know... I'm an idiot. :devil1:

[gmofo]

Email can be tricky. Let's say you are on a biz to the UK. Something like +6 from NYC.

You have a for sale up. Guy sends you an email from Chicago. His time stamp may read CST. Your time stamp in your email might read EST, might read GST, might read whatever set you have on your account (gmail, for instance) as your default.

In the meantime, guy sends you a PM. His nominal time stamp is earlier than the other guy's email, or smth like that.

That is where email can be a headache. Messages also may not send - like you "sent" through your Outlook server, but it did not go out for whatever reason.

If you post in a thread, you know the world can see it. If you send a PM, you hope the guy reads it. If you send an email, can of worms might be opened.

[Soup_Monger]

I think you are over thinking this, Gmofo. :bwah:

[rio]

i take it means pay for it and wait for the damn thing to be deliver to you, if somebody send a pm well i look at the time whoever was the faster that is the the one that gets it, anything else does not fly, pm with a tittle offer does not mean shit, maybe means NO, AND YOUR PERSONAL FINANCE STRUGLES ARE NOT WELCOME so don't bother:devil1::bwah::bwah::bwah::bwah:

[gmofo]

I have actually ran into that with regard to email. I sent a guy hours before some other dude, but because his timestamp was earlier, he got the piece. Not important that mine was delivered earlier - seller just thought it was some of angle on my part.

[Tony8179]

Give me a link to your introduction thread.

Officially called out. There is no Intro thread.


I think you are over thinking this, Gmofo. :bwah:

I too think that there is much over thinking going on. Gmofo, obviously you're pissed that you didn't get a knife that you really wanted, but seriously, it happens to all of us. You kind of have to just get over it. This thread isn't going to change the way people do business. It started out as a quality discussion, but now it's just starting to sound like whining.

[Clydetz]

I think you are over thinking this, Gmofo. :bwah:

Maybe... but he's traveling down the same road as me and I'm only talking about the timestamp in the same time zone. :ssmile:

[singularity35]

Give me a link to your introduction thread.

Ah ok, my bad. Introduction thread. So do I still need to post an intro thread now so I get better treatment in the buy and sell forum?

[Soup_Monger]

Ah ok, my bad. Introduction thread. So do I still need to post an intro thread now so I get better treatment in the buy and sell forum?

That's up to you... but I know that some sellers will check to see if you have an intro thread... and what you have posted in the past... in order to get an idea of who they are dealing with.

Have you been receiving less than fair treatment in the sales forum?

[gmofo]

Congrats for turning this discussion thread into a call out on an intro thread.

I suppose I'll get some grief for calling it douchebaggery, but it is.

For all the grief that moderators give about introductions - how about you all use PMs instead of shitting up a discussion?

[gmofo]

Tony - I could give 2 shits about Microtech, Scarab. No whining here. This is a discussion, and you are certainly free to add how you feel.

Your post has zero relevance to the thread -

1. Getting on a guy about not doing an intro - PM material. Maybe somebody would be so kind as to send me a PM explaining why an intro really is such a salient and recurring issue.

2. Discussion/poll was not started to whine or rip on anybody. The results have surprised me. With about a 55% bias towards I'll take it in a thread meaning jack squat - that is surprising to me. The discussion of time stamps in a forum that has a global audience is actually very relevant. Case in point - If I were to send you an email now, it would be time stamped +6 from NYC, and because of travel, it may or may not even be sent out now, but only later when the Outlook server would update.


Officially called out. There is no Intro thread.

I too think that there is much over thinking going on. Gmofo, obviously you're pissed that you didn't get a knife that you really wanted, but seriously, it happens to all of us. You kind of have to just get over it. This thread isn't going to change the way people do business. It started out as a quality discussion, but now it's just starting to sound like whining.

[singularity35]

That's up to you... but I know that some sellers will check to see if you have an intro thread... and what you have posted in the past... in order to get an idea of who they are dealing with.

Have you been receiving less than fair treatment in the sales forum?

Not really, just that one time. Thanks for the advice.

[Soup_Monger]

Congrats for turning this discussion thread into a call out on an intro thread.

I suppose I'll get some grief for calling it douchebaggery, but it is.

For all the grief that moderators give about introductions - how about you all use PMs instead of shitting up a discussion?

Douchbaggery you say?

You are getting precious about a thread that has shown that "I'll take it" means nothing to the majority... but you felt it warranted a poll?

And now you are whining about not whining and inviting discussion about YOU?

Tony's post is completely relevant.

"This thread isn't going to change the way people do business"

But it may well change the way people do business with you.

As for introductions?.. well.. read LaBellas slightly eccentric set of rules and all will be revealed.

[VanD]

I'm new to this, but I figure fresh opinions are needed too. I go with the time stamp as well, regardless of how the buyer contacts me, "I'll take it" or otherwise. Every action on a computer is time stamped, so a seller doesn't have to worry about fairness. Although, I've had to randomly choose between two buyers as they had the same exact time stamp. I handled this by choosing one and letting the other interested party know that they're next in line, if the original deal falls through.

Either way, communication is key...and common courtesy, by all parties involved.

Just my take on it.

Thanks

[Tony8179]

Congrats for turning this discussion thread into a call out on an intro thread.

I suppose I'll get some grief for calling it douchebaggery, but it is.

For all the grief that moderators give about introductions - how about you all use PMs instead of shitting up a discussion?


Tony - I could give 2 shits about Microtech, Scarab. No whining here. This is a discussion, and you are certainly free to add how you feel.

Your post has zero relevance to the thread -

1. Getting on a guy about not doing an intro - PM material. Maybe somebody would be so kind as to send me a PM explaining why an intro really is such a salient and recurring issue.

2. Discussion/poll was not started to whine or rip on anybody. The results have surprised me. With about a 55% bias towards I'll take it in a thread meaning jack squat - that is surprising to me. The discussion of time stamps in a forum that has a global audience is actually very relevant. Case in point - If I were to send you an email now, it would be time stamped +6 from NYC, and because of travel, it may or may not even be sent out now, but only later when the Outlook server would update.

You want a wah burger to go with those french cries? :cry:

[siriusaudio]

i can understand a buyer not wanting the "i'll take it" out there for all to see. However, if i ask for an "i'll take it" in the thread then i would like the buyer to respect the request just as i would respect what they ask for when they are selling something. It's a two way street.

this!

[siriusaudio]

Congrats for turning this discussion thread into a call out on an intro thread.

I suppose I'll get some grief for calling it douchebaggery, but it is.

For all the grief that moderators give about introductions - how about you all use PMs instead of shitting up a discussion?

BEcause that's how it's done here. WHen somone wants to participate and does not post an intro, they get publicly called out. It's encouraged by the owner of this place. It's a form of public attitude correction as it were...

[Parker]

BEcause that's how it's done here. WHen somone wants to participate and does not post an intro, they get publicly called out. It's encouraged by the owner of this place. It's a form of public attitude correction as it were...

Someone gets a fresh beer tonight :cheers:

[siriusaudio]

It's not in my fridge yet...

[Parker]

It's not in my fridge yet...

I'll be bringing it by. Go sit on the porch and wait for me :devil1:

[gmofo]

Like I said, grief. That was real tough to predict.

Go on groupies - pile it on and stroke each other into a frenzy.

And, on top of it - you groupies now give me a neg rep? For what? Calling your shitting up a discussion thread douchbaggery? Yeah, Tony and Soup - I'm calling you out. Same red given in return fellas.

Feel free, give me ALL RED. Every seller I have ever bought from will say one thing - my money is good.

On an edit: Guillermo (below) - I agree, water under the bridge. Pissing match serves nobody's interest. No more posts on this subject from me. PMs are always welcome.

[Guillermo]

Like I said, grief. That was real tough to predict.

Go on groupies - pile it on and stroke each other into a frenzy.

And, on top of it - you groupies now give me a neg rep? For what? Calling your shitting up a discussion thread douchbaggery?

Feel free, give me ALL RED. Every seller I have ever bought from will say one thing - my money is good.

Water under the bridge, water off a duck's back. Let that shit slide.

I want a PBR but anything cold will do.

[Soup_Monger]

Like I said, grief. That was real tough to predict.

Go on groupies - pile it on and stroke each other into a frenzy.

And, on top of it - you groupies now give me a neg rep? For what? Calling your shitting up a discussion thread douchbaggery? Yeah, Tony and Soup - I'm calling you out. Same red given in return fellas.

Feel free, give me ALL RED. Every seller I have ever bought from will say one thing - my money is good.

On an edit: Guillermo (below) - I agree, water under the bridge. Pissing match serves nobody's interest. No more posts on this subject from me. PMs are always welcome.

I've had groupies in the past... and none of them were JD members. :bwah:

I think you need to calm down and realise that you derailed your own thread.

[Parker]

Water under the bridge, water off a duck's back. Let that shit slide.

I want a PBR but anything cold will do.

How about an ex-wife? Don't have one myself, but I understand that they can be utterly (bi-)polar :devilzeek

[Guillermo]

How about an ex-wife? Don't have one myself, but I understand that they can be utterly (bi-)polar :devilzeek

Thanks but I already have two.:bwah:

[AJD1]

Basically,in a nutshell,the fairest thing,is to sell the knife to whoever meets the requirements of the seller first..

Did that make any sense???

[Soup_Monger]

I think we are going to need some punctuation in there.

And ditch the [ B ] tags. ;)

[AJD1]

Done and ditched..

[Soup_Monger]

Bueno. :thumbsup:

[Tank Buster]

why an intro really is such a salient and recurring issue.

Because that is our Golden rule, and if you want to sell your shit here for free then you better follow it. :pissedevil:

[Parker]

Because that is our Golden rule, and if you want to sell your shit here for free then you better follow it. :pissedevil:

You'd almost think that this was and remains an item requiring inordinate effort on the part of our members.

[Carson]

I've only ever bought stuff here... Sold one item on another forum once to good effect.

If I have an offer (would you throw in shipping for that price, Im paying with paypal regular - can we split the fee, etc.) I don't reply in thread at all.

If the price is clear and it's an item I will buy, I post "Mine! I'll take it. Pm sent for payment instruction".

Regardless of that, the instant I know it's mine, I'm headed to paypal to finish up my end. Otherwise I hit the post office the next day and get the moey order out or whatever. It sucks to see a knife you wanted marked SPF for 3 days only to see it back up for sale and then sold before you got to see it.

[bwhitaker]

What is your opinion on this: A buyer offers an item for sale, you post "I'll take it" but receive no communication. How long does the "I'll take it" stand? Are you committed to purchasing the item even after a few days? What about a week?

An example: You are in the market for a Sebenza; see one for sale and post / e-mail "I'll take it." After no communication (e-mail, pm, etc.) for two days another one becomes available from a different seller. Do you wait for the first seller or buy from the second seller?

I'm sorta in this situation (different items) and agreed to purchase both hoping the first seller doesn't come through. However if both sellers DO contact me I will purchase both. Nothing wrong with multiples right?:ross:

[Soup_Monger]

If you posted "I'll take it" and then did nothing else... then your "I'll take it" has been treated with the disdain it deserves.

If you had subsequently sent a PM or email asking for payment details and received no reply... then your seller is not worth bothering about.

[Guillermo]

What is your opinion on this: A buyer offers an item for sale, you post "I'll take it" but receive no communication. How long does the "I'll take it" stand? Are you committed to purchasing the item even after a few days? What about a week?

An example: You are in the market for a Sebenza; see one for sale and post / e-mail "I'll take it." After no communication (e-mail, pm, etc.) for two days another one becomes available from a different seller. Do you wait for the first seller or buy from the second seller?

I'm sorta in this situation (different items) and agreed to purchase both hoping the first seller doesn't come through. However if both sellers DO contact me I will purchase both. Nothing wrong with multiples right?:ross:

I would just email the first buyer and see whats up. Things happen but the seller should answer emails when trying to sell.

[CDR_Glock]

I interpret, "I'll take it" as someone agreeing to the full price and conditions. I have gotten a couple of those and in the midnight hour, they retract the offer which really screws up the thread as a seller.

As a buyer, as long as there is a price listed, I presume it's still available but some people do not update their thread.

[Tony8179]

I interpret, "I'll take it" as someone agreeing to the full price and conditions. I have gotten a couple of those and in the midnight hour, they retract the offer which really screws up the thread as a seller.

As a buyer, as long as there is a price listed, I presume it's still available but some people do not update their thread.

I leave my prices up as reference to anyone else who is considering selling the same knife. I do write SOLD all over the listing though. Constant upkeep of your thread when something is sold or traded is key.

[singularity35]

I leave my prices up as reference to anyone else who is considering selling the same knife. I do write SOLD all over the listing though. Constant upkeep of your thread when something is sold or traded is key.

Yep, I'm one of those who appreciate having the price left in the thread even after the item is sold.

[Winter]

"Hey Bro... sweet knife... I really want it but I can't stretch to $200.... but I can give you $140 and throw in SAK with a damaged tip and a set of BBQ tongs (slightly rusted)".

How much for the tongs?

[Gimmeabreak]

As long as you state your preference in your sales post, the argument of "which is better" is moot.

As for me, I work 2 jobs so my time on the forums is limited and sporadic. I specifically state in my posts that email is the only medium I respond to (it pushes to my phone). It may be 8 hours - 2 days before I log on to see who posted, "I'll take it".

And thank you LaBella for letting us play in your sandbox. It's a great place to learn.

[smoke5643]

I'll take it!

PM Sent

[chenn]

Knife is still available. Please do not say "I'll take it" and attempt to bargain in a pm.

[OnceBitten]

I call "Dick Move" on this one.

Sorry, chenn.

This shouldn't have happened to you after all discussion here:

http://www.jerzeedevil.com/forums/showthread.php?t=94404

Merge unnecessary. Let's at least be of one opinion on this topic.

"I'll take it" means that you accept the Seller's terms verbatim. No angles.

[Glenn]

This was fucked up ! I actually saw that "I'll take it"" and moved on thinking that MT was spoken for. Never thought twice to post a 2nd as it was a very fair price to start.



Hey smoke5643 :devilfinger:

[OnceBitten]

Yeah, G.

Posting "I'll take it" means that you will do everything needed to complete the transaction.

Potential (real) Buyers are misled and move on.

[Soup_Monger]

Did he offer BBQ tongs?

[havana d]

Did he offer BBQ tongs?

Yes, but Chenn didn't want them. He said they were rusty.

[Mike Stewart]

I'll take it!

PM Sent

On this forum" I'll Take it - PM Sent" Means you are asking him where to send the money and where you want it sent.

Very Bad form to do anything else.

[tubtar]

On this forum" I'll Take it - PM Sent" Means you are asking him where to send the money and where you want it sent.

Very Bad form to do anything else.

For the win !

" I'll take it " can only be interpreted one way.
And they are powerful words in this life of ours.
They mean only one thing.
They are a statement...........not a fucking question.
I have gotten more than a couple knives by simply saying those very words while others asked for pics or tried to work out trades or ????
If you say " I'll take it " and don't , you are either new to this deal , or had some incredible bad luck to change your mind.
Or you are just a cunt.
It's that simple.

[Amotek]

Punt the cunt, not only did he fuck himself but also innocent prospective buyers! Yeah, punt the cunt!!!!!!!!! :ssad::pissedevil::ssad:

[tubtar]

well if i post i'll take it

i mean i take it,
will follow with PM / email to seller and payment afer agreement on how to ship (exstra for shipping )
( i like it fast and secure and do not mind paying extra for that )

no low balling, or fucking around

We park our knives in the same sheath , my friend.:bwah:
When I say " I'll take it " , I mean exactly that.
And if no one has posted that they'll take it first , I expect that we have a deal.
If not , then I will think less of both the seller and the new owner.
Considerably less.:bwah::bwah:
If you want to keep your identity a secret , than maybe you shouldn't have sharp things around with out adult supervision.
That's my take on it.

[hot.soapy]

they are hard, yes, but they are right. take heed fuckers! lest all ye fuckers shall knoweth thine fate. take heed!

[Parker]

I'll take it!

PM Sent

Nothing says I'll Take It quite like money in the paypal acct already cooling off....

Anything else is just you offering to suck his dick whether or not he asked.



And just like that, red replaces green.

[rscheppmann]

Parker, I was wondering when his rep was going to change. Total jerk-off move :security:. Sorry this happened to you Chenn.

[Soup_Monger]

I'll take a merge.

[RoadFish]

I'll take a merge.

Sold, pending negotiations!

[Gecko]

[QUOTE]What does the "first I'll take it" mean to you? Feel free to comment in thread.
"I'll take it" in the thread trumps emails or PM.
QUOTE]

That's my opinion, but there has to be asap payment action on that.
Do that statement for fun, or send a message much later is a nogo....

"I take it" is for me absolute clear, I don't understand the confusion?
If I like to talk about the price or want to trade, I use PM or Email, and do not mess the sales thread.
(because of that, you can't post in someones salethread in my german forum)
If somebody is faster than me...ok, that's life.:devil1:

But I had it the other way around too (other forum):
I have the Email "ok" for the deal from a privat dealer, but he didn't send me payment info.
After a day I ask what's the problem, he told me he gets a better price offer later.
That's not ok, imho.

I think it has to be fair for both sides.

Cheers,
Pit

Hey, 50 posts! What will I get?:madaddy:

[tubtar]

Nothing says I'll Take It quite like money in the paypal acct already cooling off....

Anything else is just you offering to suck his dick whether or not he asked.



And just like that, red replaces green.

O.K. .............this changes the entire dynamic of the problem as described.
We all know this from business 101.
Nothing says sold like a little bit of oral pleasure.
We have now entered into a relationship where the monetary exchange becomes secondary.
You tell me " I'll take it , I'll eat the paypal fees and I'll suck your dick " , I don't give a shit what the time stamp says............you're getting a knife.:bwah::bwah::bwah::bwah:
This is common knowledge.:devil1:

[tubtar]

[QUOTE]What does the "first I'll take it" mean to you? Feel free to comment in thread.
"I'll take it" in the thread trumps emails or PM.
QUOTE]

But I had it the other way around too (other forum):
I have the Email "ok" for the deal from a privat dealer, but he didn't send me payment info.
After a day I ask what's the problem, he told me he gets a better price offer later.
That's not ok, imho.

I think it has to be fair for both sides.

Cheers,
Pit

Hey, 50 posts! What will I get?:madaddy:

That is as cunty as it gets.........dealer or private party.
It borders on dishonest and certainly is without honor.
I would be letting the world know what a douche bag this person was if I got stiffed like that.

re; the 50 posts............you have your choice of what's behind door number 1 , door number 2 or what's in the box that Carol is bringing down now.:bwah:

[Gecko]

[QUOTE=Gecko;1018563]
I would be letting the world know what a douche bag this person was if I got stiffed like that.

Done that immediately (sadly we are not allowed to call someone a fucking fuck...:pissedevil:) and as far as I noticed, that retard shows up just once or twice a year...
Uups, actually he's barred to post; fooled around with the mods, i guess:devil1:

Pit

äh, I take the box:easydevil:

[RNST]

On this forum" I'll Take it - PM Sent" Means you are asking him where to send the money and where you want it sent.

Very Bad form to do anything else.

Why didn't you post this on the first page Mike? It would have nipped it in the bud so to speak.

I could have had the other five pages of my life back after reading this grandstanding from a mofo.


:facepalm:

[ratstuph]

Why didn't you post this on the first page Mike? It would have nipped it in the bud so to speak.

I could have had the other five pages of my life back after reading this grandstanding from a mofo.

:facepalm:

You aren't dancin' enough.

yExLBrT-8Gw&NR

all da best,
rats...

[OnceBitten]

Why didn't you post this on the first page Mike? It would have nipped it in the bud so to speak.

I could have had the other five pages of my life back after reading this grandstanding from a mofo.


:facepalm:
Hahaha, sounds like a YouTube hater"

"I want 1:57 of my life back"

[Glenn]

(through PM )







Do you have any extra Mtech twists left? I'm willing to pay 35 bucks at the least.
Hi there, matter a fact I am down to ONE remaining in stock. With factory hardware cost is 27 bucks shipped, with upgrade to knifekit pivots and stacked bronze washers is 43 shipped.

If you need me to locktight it up can do so as well, with the upgrade.

Let me know ? I can do the upgrade tonight or tomorrow and ship Monday morning.

Thanks. Glenn

Thanks. I'm gonna wait for a bit more money to come in. I'll take the one with standard hardware wit loctite. Ship it later please. I'm still waiting for a bit more money. I'll talk to you soon. Any other knives for sale though?
Tell you what, if it's here when you get money you can buy it, When you contact someone wanting to buy something it's usually customary to have cash at hand.
Sorry, wasn't thinking there. I won't buy it. Thanks for your business though. Ill talk to you if I change my mind.





No you weren't thinking and won't buy it, that's for sure. Thanks for waisting my time. :devilfinger:

[tubtar]

I don't want to come off as elitist.......I don't care if I sound like an asshole though.
If you can't move on a 27.00 knife , then you are in the wrong hobby.
Get to the bus depot and suck a couple dozen dicks ?
Knock over a liquor store and buy a real knife ?
27.00 don't buy a quality sheath.
What the fuck kind of knife do you get for that ?
I am mystified.
Truly mystified.:devilroll:

[Mike Stewart]

I don't want to come off as elitist.......I don't care if I sound like an asshole though.
If you can't move on a 27.00 knife , then you are in the wrong hobby.
Get to the bus depot and suck a couple dozen dicks ?
Knock over a liquor store and buy a real knife ?
27.00 don't buy a quality sheath.
What the fuck kind of knife do you get for that ?
I am mystified.
Truly mystified.:devilroll:

Well......

He did say that he was wiling to pay $35.00 for it but not $43.00 for it.

I agree that he needs to get a new hobby.

If you don't have $43.00 you are not a knife Collector of anything that they don't sell at Wal-Mart.

[EOD13]

I get this BS ALOT from newer members....


(through PM )








No you weren't thinking and won't buy it, that's for sure. Thanks for waisting my time. :devilfinger:

[firebolt]

you are all really impatience

i'm sure after he receives his pocket money from Dad he wil buy it

:ropeman::devilroll:

[OnceBitten]

If you can't move on a 27.00 knife , then you are in the wrong hobby.


It's really just


GLENN'S FAULT


for not offering 24 easy Monthly Payments O.A.C.