Josh Burbank/ PVK (merged threads)

[cdf]

I've seen a couple of things on their site , however I'm pretty leary of web merchants I'm not familiar with . I have E mailed them and tried to call to no avail . This makes me a bit jumpy . Any info would be appreciated .

[Phil Elmore]

Josh has never failed to send me merchandise that I ordered, but he is sometimes available and sometimes not. It's been a long time since I bought anything from PVK/Knifezilla, so I couldn't say if anything has changed.

[cdf]

Thanks Phil. good enuff for me !

Chris

[Xarathos]

Nothing has changed at PVK, Josh maybe a little slow some times, but an honest dealer. Josh also owns Blade Auction.

[nethiker]

I just bought two knives from him. I sent an email inquiry and didn't receive a reply. When I called him, I enjoyed talking with him and decided to place my order. He shipped right away. I'd buy from him again.

Greg

[Stabber]

He sure has alot in stock!!

[Missaman]

Josh is otay....
a little slow some times
Missaman in da' hood

[borinquen]

i bought my first dalton from him,bought it over the holiday weekend (new years) and i got it in about 4-5 days.i'd order from him again.

[Mr.LaBella]

welcome to the forums nethiker ! :gogdog:

[tough-guy]

I dealed with Josh last year. We had some problems with the PayPal, but it only took a bit longer.

Very friendly guy and imho. a good contact.

Rich

[Honch0]

Josh ships fast as lightning.

Josh doesn't pay much attention to e-mails.

Josh is always busy, but if you get him on the phone he is very personable and helpful.

Josh has good prices for a Web site and is a direct Dalton dealer too.

Josh bullshitted a buddy of mine on a Dalton STC warranty issue. Claimed the knife was fine, I checked it myself, it did not always lock-up.

I'd buy from him tomorrow if he had a piece I wanted.

So, that's what I know about PVK...

[Beau T]

am i the only one that thinks this guy sells knock off crap! i don't care if he is reliable... look at knifezilla and tell me how many fukin rip offs you see.

i would't give him piss! :doublefu:

[KillerKickBoxer]

i have bought LOTS of Microtech knives from Josh and even when they broke or had problems he ALWAYS took care of it quickity quick-like....but then again i DO spend upwards of around $35,000 a year at PVK.....i'd buy from him anytime,i just wish he'd talk A LITTLE LOUDER!!!!!! :dammit: just MHO..... KKB :devil:

[Beau T]

35k a year... wow must be nice. are you a dealer? if not what the hell do you with all those blades. my self... i just spent $9500 on a new skidoo, $3000 on a plasma.


i just think that selling legit knives DOES NOT make up for selling someone elses ideas. there is SOOOOO much shit on knifezilla it makes me sick. josh does have good prices and nice stuff on pvk, but he plays both sides and gave in to knock off swap meet shit. which to me means he doesn't care who made it or where it comes from as long as he gets paid. JMHO :twisted:

[UltraReef]

I would recommend Josh. I would also have to say I have had good luck with him responding to my emails...then again...he knows who I am. At any rate, he did ship the wrong knife to me and we had to do the ole' ship back and forth, but it got resolved.

[UT-II]

Spend enough time on forums and you'll read about anything.

Anyway, yep, PVK gets 'er done, awful e-mail responses, a bit more expensive than some, but if ya gotta have what they have then I'd say go.

[gnomedeplume]

His replacement springs are top shelf.:jdsmokin:

[daytonabenn]

Just thought Id let you know, I had been after a DKW Sandshark for a while and almost for a laugh I emailed Mr Joshua Burbank of PVK and Knifezilla and maybe another which I cant remember. I expected to receive a reply saying 'yeah, get in the queue hahahah', but he mailed and said he had one. I have also picked his brains on a number of knives on his sites and he has always been very helpful, and patient too, good when dealing with a thicko like me! He gave me a price, I agreed, he sent it and Im very happy! I could not recommend him enough as a thoroughly decent chap to deal with. So there!

[ghosthellz]

I've seen a couple of things on their site , however I'm pretty leary of web merchants I'm not familiar with . I have E mailed them and tried to call to no avail . This makes me a bit jumpy . Any info would be appreciated .

i as well ordered two knives from josh. He sent them out right away good honest dealer. Always replied to emails sometimes a day or two late but none the less.

[ghosthellz]

am i the only one that thinks this guy sells knock off crap! i don't care if he is reliable... look at knifezilla and tell me how many fukin rip offs you see.

i would't give him piss! :doublefu:

most knife sites have those rip offs besides the knife makers themselves?????

[mingyu]

I have informed the dealer about this thread. Whom I did business with is PVK.com.

I received an email from PVK yesterday, so I will update every progress since then.



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Hello everyone, I'm Mingyu, a silent member.
Have you ever been in a situation like this?
You paid $879.99, but all you got are: half of a normal microtech scarab, two boxes and sheaths:ssad:
http://i717.photobucket.com/albums/ww175/marijuana-knife/IMGP0981.jpg

I'm here looking for help, I don't know what I can do and I need advice.
Here is what happend:

I'm in the Netherlands, I purchased a Benchmade AFOII from a dealer a few months ago, I received the knife about a week after I paid, but no box no sheath. Seller said he always send knife and box in two separate parcels. I don't care about the box or sheath so I thought it's OK.

So the second time I purchased a microtech scarab, which was $479.99. I received box and sheat two weeks after I paid, but the knife never shown up. Though the seller can't prove he sent it, I trust him. I thought the knife may be lost in the mail, I asked if the seller can help to fill an investigation form in his local postoffice to search the knife, no response about that. I persuaded myself maybe it's just my bad luck.

About two months after I paid for that never come scarab, I moved to another appartment but in the same building. I wanted a microtech scarab so much that I worked during the whole summer holiday and earnd my wage. I purchased a same kind kinfe from the same dealer because I trust him. That's true, when I say I trust someone, I really do. After sending several emails, the dealer replied. I expressed my willing to buy the same kind knife again, and the dealer offerd me a discont price $400, I was happy because I never asked for a discount and I was planning to pay the regular price.

This time I asked the dealer to take pictures just in case any package gets missing again, in addition, he said he would send the knife in two halves so that no one would steal it, I agreed and thought that's a very good idea. Two weeks after the payment, half of the knife with box and sheath arrived. But, more than one month since the payment, the other half still not come. I contacted the dealer recommend to fill investigation forms this time but not until I sent four emails, he replied he promise the other half will come and let me wait. I waited for another week, but still nothing. I'm very sad this time because I recieve packages almost every week, from the USA, from within the EU and even from China, I never lost or failed to receive one single package except the ones from him. I've bought from him three time, and every time there's one package lost. I wrote to him yesterday again and I'm waiting for the reply.

The dealer used internation air post service to send to send the knife, is there any way to find the package? What can I do now?
And is there anyone who's selling springs, screws and the cover of the microtech scarab?
I'll be grateful for your help!

[Harley Rider]

I wonder if customs could do something like that? Take your knife apart so its no longer an automatic knife?

Al

[knifepuppet]

and even from China

What you mean while you said "even from China"?

You guaranteed yourself a western package safer than one from China??

But you still lost your half knife and your gonna trust him as you always did, right???

:devil1: Joking...I m just joking~~~:decisions

Welcome JD.

Seriously, this is the first time that I heard of a weird knife story like that.

I live in China, but I commiserate your unfortunate experiences. I had never lost any single knife among my 20 grands of sharpened toys coming from all over the world.

IMHO, you may choose a really good dealer who really deserves your trust, and try to bribe one or two officers in customs. Actually I do this way, for the sake of my knives. :madaddy:

[zappadragon]

Who was the dealer?

[Mr. Andersson]

Mingyu, please introduce you´rself in the "new member area" (http://www.jerzeedevil.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=41) so we can welcome you first..

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And that has to be the weirdest story ever.....

Good luck!

[mingyu]

I wonder if customs could do something like that? Take your knife apart so its no longer an automatic knife?

Al

The packages I received haven't been opend by Customs, if they opend the package, they will not take the knife apart but send me a notice for fine and tax.
The knife was taken apart by seller because it's safer to ship it, no one will want to steal it.

[mingyu]

What you mean while you said "even from China"?

You guaranteed yourself a western package safer than one from China??

But you still lost your half knife and your gonna trust him as you always did, right???

:devil1: Joking...I m just joking~~~:decisions

Welcome JD.

Seriously, this is the first time that I heard of a weird knife story like that.

I live in China, but I commiserate your unfortunate experiences. I had never lost any single knife among my 20 grands of sharpened toys coming from all over the world.

IMHO, you may choose a really good dealer who really deserves your trust, and try to bribe one or two officers in customs. Actually I do this way, for the sake of my knives. :madaddy:

I said "even from China" because in the packages from China were cigaretes, which are not allowed to be sent here by mail.
Thank you for your advice.

[RNST]

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Welcome and enjoy the JD!





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[dragoncutlery]

um i would have been worried when he wanted to take the knife apart for shipping once some one opens your mail there keeping it whether its a half knife or not or its going in the trash bin im thinking hes pulling you around a bit mabe all he had to sell you was the half a knife hence the discount me thinks you got hustled and hes just surprised you keep coming back for more

[Stabber]

First of all you got totally Raped for $800+
Second, The Nipplehead that sold you the knife was protecting himself. Both halves won't function alone.
Third, Don't pick on my buddy KnifePuppet!!!:pissedevil: Cartman!!

[TKD]

Mingyu you seem a bit naive, I would not trust anybody online.
Your story seems a bit odd, you sure you giving us all the facts?

TKD

[jasonp]

Sorry to hear about your situation. I guess the best advice i can give is every order you make from now on, use tracked parcel and always ask for the tracking #

[purpledc]

doesnt really suprise me too much. I once waited 3 months for a knife to get to my house from canada. And i live in illinois. Sometimes shit gets lost in the system. I actually believe it will show at some point.

[mingyu]

Mingyu you seem a bit naive, I would not trust anybody online.
Your story seems a bit odd, you sure you giving us all the facts?

TKD

Actually I won't believe this happend either. I have experienced many kinds of people, and I found the best way to get along with others is to treat them with trust. First two times, I trusted the dealer and I think packages may be stolen in the mail or by customs, but the third time, I also think it's odd to lost a knife again.

There are facts I didn't mention above: I also bought a tri-wing screw driver, a pen, a lanyard and a smoothkote when I bought from the seller at the second time, paid for them together with the microtech scarab, but I didn't get the screw driver and the smoothkote until the third time. :decisions

[mingyu]

Sorry to hear about your situation. I guess the best advice i can give is every order you make from now on, use tracked parcel and always ask for the tracking #

Thanks Jasonp! I will not use an untracked parcel anymore.

[910stryker]

i wouldnt use that dealer ever again. he probably sold the other half to someone else....for a discount at 400 too, and sold your box and sheath from the infidel as well to someone still waiting on a knife.

[TKD]

Well, live and learn man.

Click on the number under my avatar, you'll feel better, I promise

TKD

[BlazenGem]

How about giving us the dealer's name? Not only will this warn other buyers before getting bummed out but we might be able to find if theres a history of their customer abuse.

[Mr.LaBella]

:wrongforu

:movethread:

We need details. This is definitely a deal gone bad, VERY BAD.

[mingyu]

:wrongforu

:movethread:

We need details. This is definitely a deal gone bad, VERY BAD.

I've informed the seller about this thread, if he thinks anything I said was not true, I can update every email I sent to the seller and all the replys I got.

[mingyu]

From: guomingyu23@hotmail.com
To: 2009@pvk.com
Subject: RE: Sorry to send this again, but I didn't get a reply
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 2009 13:58:52 +0000

So I waited until this Thursday, but things didn't happen like you promised, it's October 8th now, nearly a month since I paid, the other side of the knife still not come.
I paid two times, which was 879 dollors, on a same microtech scarab but only received half of a knife, I don't know if you can understand what I'm feeling now. This is the third time I buy from you, and it's also the third time a package lost.
I recommend asking for an investigation form in your postoffice to search where the package is, will you let me know if you will do it this time?
I'm looking forward for a solution. Please let me know. Thank you.

From: guomingyu23@hotmail.com
To: 2009@pvk.com
Subject: RE: Sorry to send this again, but I didn't get a reply
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 2009 17:36:25 +0000

Hi Josh,
Will you please inform me what solution on this problem? It's the second time I don't receive the knife.
Please write to me.
Kind regards,
Mingyu

Date: Fri, 9 Oct 2009 16:53:25 -0400
Subject: Re: Sorry to send this again, but I didn't get a reply
From: 2009@pvk.com
To: guomingyu23@hotmail.com

So here's a question - what hardware exactly are you missing so the knife can be completed?

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Thank You

Josh Burbank
General Manager
http://pvk.com
http://knifezilla.com

From: guomingyu23@hotmail.com
To: 2009@pvk.com
Subject: RE: Sorry to send this again, but I didn't get a reply
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 2009 21:20:45 +0000

Hi,
I received the half with blade, what I didn't receive are the parts that are not in the picture.
I'm sending the picture to you again.
I know you are busy, thank you for your reply.
Mingyu

From: guomingyu23@hotmail.com
To: 2009@pvk.com
Subject: RE: Sorry to send this again, but I didn't get a reply
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 2009 21:41:02 +0000

I hope you received the picture successfully from my last email. Please let me know what's the solution by Tuesday, or if you agree I can send the half knife back when my local postoffice opens, and ask for refund.
Kind regards,
Mingyu

[mingyu]

i wouldnt use that dealer ever again. he probably sold the other half to someone else....for a discount at 400 too, and sold your box and sheath from the infidel as well to someone still waiting on a knife.

To avoid misunderstanding, the first time I bought from him was a benchmade AFOII not a benchamade infidel.

I do have an infidel, I bought that from John (Chi) on other forum. It was a great deal.

[mingyu]

I received an email from PVK and here are the email and my reply.

Date: Sun, 11 Oct 2009 23:01:52 -0400
Subject: new order parts
From: 2009@pvk.com
To: guomingyu23@hotmail.com

OK I think what we'll do then is make up the rest of the knife and get that to you priority mail like you showed me how to.
Same address correct?
And the above model is specifically which one from my site (sorry it's so many email I can't find the one w/ the order.)

From: guomingyu23@hotmail.com
To: 2009@pvk.com
Subject: RE: new order parts
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2009 11:45:02 +0000

I bought Microtech Scarab two times from you,one never shown up and the other is half arrived. Now I'm sending pictures of the boxes I received. The one on the left is the model which I received half of it. And also a picture of the half knife just in case to avoid sending the wrong parts of the rest.
On your website it's http://216.71.158.68/webcat/scarabdefullyserratedmelonitesbt.shtml
Please let me know when you will send the package, thank you.


http://i717.photobucket.com/albums/ww175/marijuana-knife/IMGP0991.jpg

http://i717.photobucket.com/albums/ww175/marijuana-knife/IMGP0977.jpg

[six]

N0 Matter h0w y0u slice it that's Fuck. Is that a rare knife?

[jimmydred]

N0 Matter h0w y0u slice it that's Fuck. Is that a rare knife?

Very rare Indeed!

How many full serrated half Scarab knives have you ever seen?

[mingyu]

The seller said he would make up the rest of the knife and send to me. I have a question here, will parts from other microtech knife fit my knife well together?

[Stabber]

Do you have the bit that fits the screws?If not, Your Screwed. Have you done this before? It's not that hard. Don't loose that little spring in the fire/release button!!:devilzeek

Parts can go from the same model to model.

[mingyu]

Do you have the bit that fits the screws?If not, Your Screwed. Have you done this before? It's not that hard. Don't loose that little spring in the fire/release button!!:devilzeek

Parts can go from the same model to model.

Thank you for answering my question!
I've bought one small driver that fits the tri-wing screws. This one will be my first Scarab so I'll see if I can put it together.

[Knife Crazied]

That is crazy he should just send you a knife already together.

[mingyu]

After I opend a dispute on paypal, I got an email from the seller saying:

Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2009 15:58:07 -0400
Subject: Re: New Significantly Not as Described Dispute: Case #PP-807-792-417
From: joshua.burbank@gmail.com
To: wearefriends2008@live.cn

Can you please resolve this I was ready to ship you out today...

From: wearefriends2008@live.cn
To: joshua.burbank@gmail.com
Subject: RE: New Significantly Not as Described Dispute: Case #PP-807-792-417
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2009 21:29:37 +0000

Hi,
Please let me explain to you, I have only 5 days left before the paypal time ends (which is 45 days limit), I open the dispute is to make me more time, so now we have more days to resolve this problem.
As we can see from PayPal Buyer Complaint Policy
Under article 5: If you haven’t reached a resolution during the 20 days following the date you filed the dispute or if you have reached a resolution with the seller but it hasn’t been fully executed (for example: you haven’t received the refund or you haven’t received an exchange item that the seller agreed to send you) we recommend that you escalate the dispute into a claim, so that you maintain your rights under this policy. Once the dispute automatically closes at the of the 20 day period, it cannot be re-opened or escalated.

So I can not say we resolved this problem and close the dispute before I receive the package.

Thank you.

[mingyu]

From: wearefriends2008@live.cn
To: joshua.burbank@gmail.com
Subject: RE: New Significantly Not as Described Dispute: Case #PP-807-792-417
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2009 15:39:26 +0000

Hello,
Please let me know the tracking number (priority mail as you mentioned in previous email) after you send the item.
Thank you.
Mingyu

Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2009 12:40:01 -0400
Subject: Re: New Significantly Not as Described Dispute: Case #PP-807-792-417
From: joshua.burbank@gmail.com
To: wearefriends2008@live.cn

That previous email was prior to your dispute.



From: wearefriends2008@live.cn
To: joshua.burbank@gmail.com
Subject: RE: New Significantly Not as Described Dispute: Case #PP-807-792-417
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2009 20:10:06 +0000

Sorry I don't quite understand what's your meaning.

Your previous email was on Oct 13, 2009, after I opend the dispute, saying: "Can you please resolve this I was ready to ship you out today..."

Or do you mean the one on Oct 11, 2009, saying:"OK I think what we'll do then is make up the rest of the knife and get that to you priority mail like you showed me how to. Same address correct? And the above model is specifically which one from my site (sorry it's so many email I can't find the one w/ the order.)"

Are you arguing that I should not open a dispute on paypal because you said you would send me the rest of the knife?
If yes, I think I have explaind that to you and I have no problem to explain that once more. Paypal allows me 45 days to open a dispute, which means on the day Oct 13, I have only less than 5 days left to keep myself under Paypal's protection. I don't think the package can arrive within 5 days. Then I opend the dispute to allow me 20 more days to wait for your package.

My action is reasonable, because firstly, I waited long enough for the package from you. I contacted you several times but you just let me wait for it, most time within the the 45 days limit I was just wait for your package, you costed the time. Secondly, under Paypal's instruction, to open a dispute is also a standard way when buyer is waiting for seller's make-up package. Since the buyer can open a dispute only one time, Paypal doesn't recommend buyer to close the dispute before the package arrives (I have sent their policy to you, under article 5). Thirdly, you don't need to worry if I will cheat your paypal money. As I have sent you links to my threads on Bladeforums and JerzeeDevil, many people are watching this event on those forums.

Back to our situation here, another six days past since last Thursday, Oct 8, 2009. What do we achieve until now?
(I said I would wait until that date then contact you if still no package. I am a patient person but I can not wait a life long time for that).
In your last email, I don't see anything about my knife but only a sentence about dispute. If you were trying to say you won't send the knife to me before I close the dispute, I have to say, I'm sorry, I disagree.
And please, please next time write more to express your opinion, that will help us to solve the problem more quickly. Besides, that will help me to understand correctly since my English is not so good.

[diggumsmack2]

Sounds like you're getting the run around and around and around. That knife looks so depressed in the picture, must be worse to actually have to admit you own only half a Scarab. Well like George Bush once said "fool me once, shame on you, fool me can't get fooled again"

[mingyu]

Will Paypal investigate seller's account before a dispute turns into a claim?
Anyone can help me with a clear answer for that?

The email I got from the seller:

Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2009 16:27:25 -0400
Subject: Re: New Significantly Not as Described Dispute: Case #PP-807-792-417
From: joshua.burbank@gmail.com
To: wearefriends2008@live.cn

Save the fingers man cmom. You have my word I will be shipping you out another set of the parts you need to get your knife going w/ the tracking etc but you gotta kill this dispute before paypal starts investigating my account (again...) for switchblade sales... I regret the loss but I am going to have much use for the rest of the parts I am not sending you - I will get some money from the blade/handle that I will end up with just sell them as spare parts. I also have 100+ scarabs in stock and can afford to replace - it's not a problem... Losing that paypal account will be however a big one.

[Knife Crazied]

They will only investigate after you tell them too or if you or him make it known you used paypal to pay for an auto which is a big no no. I have sold a lot of knives and bought a lot also and I would HIGHLY recommend not closing the dispute until you receive the parts AND make sure it goes together and works right. I feel if you close it you'll never see your parts. Just my 2 cents.

[mingyu]

They will only investigate after you tell them too or if you or him make it known you used paypal to pay for an auto which is a big no no. I have sold a lot of knives and bought a lot also and I would HIGHLY recommend not closing the dispute until you receive the parts AND make sure it goes together and works right. I feel if you close it you'll never see your parts. Just my 2 cents.

Thank you! I got that bad feeling too, I feel the dealer's not really going to send me what he should send, since he has used Paypal a lot, he should know that paypal won't investigate one's account unless there's a claim.

[Soup_Monger]

Mingyu

You are conveniently neglecting the fact that autos and even "one hand opening" knives are illegal in Holland.

If you are importing contraband into your Country and knowingly trying to dupe Customs... who are not stupid... then any complaint you have is just hot air.

The dealer complied with your wishes to have the knife sent in two parts... but selling to you in the first place was a big mistake on his part.

I'm sure Netherland Customs will be reading this thread with interest.

[mingyu]

Mingyu

You are conveniently neglecting the fact that autos and even "one hand opening" knives are illegal in Holland.

If you are importing contraband into your Country and knowingly trying to dupe Customs... who are not stupid... then any complaint you have is just hot air.

The dealer complied with your wishes to have the knife sent in two parts... but selling to you in the first place was a big mistake on his part.

I'm sure Netherland Customs will be reading this thread with interest.

Yes, I agree that my hobby of collecting auto knife is in the gray aera of Dutch Law, I didn't follow it 100% because I love those knives so much. That' why I'm thinking to go to America a few years later, to live in a state where I can collect those knives without a problem. But right now, the truth is I'm so sorry that I'm in a wrong country.
After reading your reply, I'm considering maybe it's time to stop going further against the law, I should re-start my hobby when I'm in the right place.
Thank you Soup Monger, you make me face some truth which I didn't before. Kind regards.

[diggumsmack2]

Mingyu, Besides all the law breaking which goes on here in the U.S. everyday I'm sure because many people aren't sure of the law or don't care or just wanna make a sale or in your case feed that steel addiction. The seller is asking you to trust him once more for the fourth time? If I'm correct in counting. If it smells like shit, looks like shit and you're getting a shitty feeling must be...

[mingyu]

Mingyu, Besides all the law breaking which goes on here in the U.S. everyday I'm sure because many people aren't sure of the law or don't care or just wanna make a sale or in your case feed that steel addiction. The seller is asking you to trust him once more for the fourth time? If I'm correct in counting. If it smells like shit, looks like shit and you're getting a shitty feeling must be...

Yes, the seller is giving his word again.

To treat everyone nice and give them trust, that is how I am and how I was taught. However, I'm so disappointed dealing with the dealer, he gave me his word and promise but none of them became true. I will withdraw my trust from him.

I've considered about the whole thing and it seems that the dealer's never going to send me anything before I close the dispute, which I will not close.
I don't want to waste more time or money on this tragedy, I'm going to ask him for refund, but I'm not sure if I should ask refund for the first Scarab, because before I orderd the second Scarab when I was believing his word, I thought the lost Scarab might be taken by postman or Customs worker. I said in my email: "I don't care it much now, let GOD decide where it will be. I just hope it will be on a knife collecter's hands." Will that be unreasonable if I tell him I want refund for both knives now?

[mingyu]

From: wearefriends2008@live.cn
To: joshua.burbank@gmail.com
Subject: RE: New Significantly Not as Described Dispute: Case #PP-807-792-417
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2009 20:16:50 +0000

Dear Sir,
I don't think that Paypal will investigate your account until I turn the dispute into a claim (which is 20 days later since the day I opend the dispute), and if the dispute is closed, I can not open it again. As you have used Paypayl for much longer time than I do, I assume you known those things.
It seems to me that you just want me to close the dispute to leave me no protection. I have had enough of your word and promise, they are not a guarantee anymore. I trusted you and gave you enough time to make things up, but I am disappointed again and again about the result.
I don't want to waste more time or money, let's just end this, since you don't want let Paypal involve to decide.

As you are not going to send me anything, I'm so sorry to say I would send what I received back to you and ask for refund.
I will send them with tracking number to make sure you receive them.
Here's the list:
Two Microtech knife boxes
Two Microtech knife sheaths
Two warranty paper
Half of a Microtech Scarab double edge knife
One blue hook with "We appreciate your business" written on it (I didn't order it, I know it's a gift but I'm not going to keep it)

All the items above are the same as when they came to me.
The total amount is 479.99+400-11=868.99 dollors( 479.99 for the first Scarab, 400 for the second Scarab, -11 for your shipping fee)
If you disagree with anything I said, I'm willing to hear your opinion.

Please provide me your address to receive the package.


Mingyu

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[diggumsmack2]

I don't know either you or the dealer from a hole in the wall but if I was an honest dealer and was looking down the barrel of a Paypal investigation and Paypal is at the heart of my doing business. I would overnight you what you need to complete the knife, just to clear things up. Now if I were an honest dealer I wouldn't have sold to you to begin with because of laws and what have you. Once you cancel fraud claim you will be up a creek with no paddle, keep your paddle.

[mingyu]

Date: Fri, 16 Oct 2009 00:24:27 -0400
Subject: Re: New Significantly Not as Described Dispute: Case #PP-807-792-417
From: joshua.burbank@gmail.com
To: wearefriends2008@live.cn

So does all this text mean no you won't cancel that? A simple no would suffice. I do not need more terms at gunpoint - it doesn't work with me. Everyday people are trying to steal from me and force me to do things. I do not work with those people. Right now you are attempting to steal - you know I sent those items... So cancel the dispute and I will send of my own accord to you or don't - I am telling you right now though although it may cost me that paypal account you will not win with paypal. They do not reverse transaction on the charge you placed just mediate discussion. So keep the dispute open and you are going to save me the obligation of keeping a promise to you because of your hostal actions. Understand?


From: wearefriends2008@live.cn
To: joshua.burbank@gmail.com
Subject: RE: New Significantly Not as Described Dispute: Case #PP-807-792-417
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 2009 13:32:29 +0000

1. I have said "no" for two times and I explained why I said no. You just ignored. And here's the third time, no, I'm not going to close the dispute because I didn't get the full item until now.

2. You said everybody's stealing from you, that is your liberty of speech. BUT, You Can Never Say I Am Attempting To Steal! I care about my reputation and I won't let you to violate it. You'd better take back your words and say sorry.

3. I asked you for receipts from sending the items, but you NEVER showed them to me, you just ignore my request. I misplaced my trust on you and I orderd again, I even reminded and asked you to take pictures to show you send the item, you agreed. Do you need me to provide your reply to help you recall? However, the result is "NO Receipt, No Picture". How do you plan to explain that? Please don't ignore this question again!
Except the things I have recieved, I can NEVER Know if you have really sent those other items since you never proved it to me, so what make you think I know you sent them?

4. I'm always being gentle to you and never force you to do things, I asked for your opinion and agreement everytime. I also give you enough time and chances before I open the dispute and before I ask for refund. You didn't take the time or the chances, that's your own choice.

5. Instead, I feel that you are forcing me to do things by threatening me that I can not win with PayPal. But please notice, I don't care if I win, I care if I do the right thing. What I have done and what I'm doing now are based on truth. I believe Paypal will hold the justice. Please bear in mind, neither you or me is the one who makes the final decision, the one who makes decision is truth.

6. To answer your question at the end of your email: I DO NOT understand.

Mingyu

[Markous]

This is a pretty shitty situation and i would be trippin balls if i was one the wrong end of this deal.

I have to say in my experience with Josh his communication skills are not A+ but he's never wronged me and i have done almost $3k worth of knife business with him.

[mingyu]

This is a pretty shitty situation and i would be trippin balls if i was one the wrong end of this deal.

I have to say in my experience with Josh his communication skills are not A+ but he's never wronged me and i have done almost $3k worth of knife business with him.

Really glad to know that you got good experience! I'm sorry to say I don't have my experience as good as yours.
I didn't get my knife from him, that does not mean he is 100% a cheater.
You got your knife from him, that does not mean he is 100% always right.
So I think: Nobody can never make mistakes, he is a person like everybody else who is right most time and sometimes makes mistakes. Do you agree?
However, the important point to judge a person is not about whether he makes mistakes, the most important point is what he will do when there's a mistake. Also his manner.
I want to ask for your advice, will you close a Paypal dispute before you receive anything from a seller? And since a dispute won't cause investigation, why does the seller keep asking you to close it before he's sending anything to you? :decisions

[mingyu]

Date: Fri, 16 Oct 2009 12:13:59 -0400
Subject: Re: New Significantly Not as Described Dispute: Case #PP-807-792-417
From: joshua.burbank@gmail.com
To: wearefriends2008@live.cn

I have to ship orders I will respond this weekend thanks.

Date: Fri, 16 Oct 2009 12:55:34 -0400
Subject: Re: New Significantly Not as Described Dispute: Case #PP-807-792-417
From: joshua.burbank@gmail.com
To: wearefriends2008@live.cn

Again tho just to remind you of something. My business is not obligated to replace anything that I have sent to you that your country's mail employees decide to steal which they have obviously done twice now. No business is - it is your responsibility 100% after the items leave here.

THe fact that I was going to do it and gave you a deal the second time was something I do personally to feel better about the work I do. No other business would do that.

These were shipped in a fashion that I am familiar with that discourages theft. You seemed fine with the method and did not protest. When it was already shipped you suggested something different but alas it was already sent.

Now you want to be a tough guy and wage a paypal dispute. A dispute you will lose that will cost me my paypal account. You will lose that dispute trust me I have worked with paypal for 10 years - they cannot enforce that type of dispute because you have admitted delivery. Maybe if you had done "item not delivered" you could twist my arm a little more harder but I know I am not going to lose this one - so I just lost the will to send you more product. UNderstand? Yes you do I think. I don't choose to work with people who do this type of thing. It has certainly been done before. THere's a man in england who tried it... Same knife even. He never did end up getting his bottom handleset - it got lost to customs. Twice. I think I know how to take it apart too - separate the blade from the handle. That is where the other half of yours was going to go - to settle that. Though so much time has past I know he would be delighted. You should make it happen for yourself and him... Or not I don't care.



From: wearefriends2008@live.cn
To: joshua.burbank@gmail.com
Subject: RE: New Significantly Not as Described Dispute: Case #PP-807-792-417
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 2009 22:17:31 +0000

Glad to answer any of your doubts
1. You never provide anything to let me know if you really sent all the items.

2. Yes I once doubt the postman stole my package, however, now I don't think the postman stole my packages because I never lost any other packages, I only lost three packages which are ALL from you. I don't think a postman will be more interested in stealing a benchmade sheath and box (the first package that I didn't receive from you) than a package contains 30 boxes of cigarette. Also, the second package I didn't receive from you is a Scarab, based on your description, it should be very small and very unimportant at the appearance, how will it motivate the postman to steal it since he faces hundreds more attractive packages everyday? Third time, the upper half of the Scarab without the blade, six screws, a clip, a glass breaker. I think they can even be shipped in a common envelope, does anyone think it is more attractive than any other packages?

3. Today it is the first time you tell me it's 100% my responsibility after items leave your place. All I got known by you was "a lot of items you ever sent to the world and they were all arrived without any problem" and your word, promises that I would receive my packages for sure. Besides, you haven't proved you shipped fully, how can it now be my 100% responsibility then?

4. I did agree with your shipping method every time. The last time I was asking if you could use a service that provide tracking number and keep the package look low profile, you said you could use EMS which will cause investigation by Customs. So I agree to use the former shipping method. After I bought and received a Benchmade Infidel from a Bladeforums member, I knew that USPS priority mail with register was a safe way. I told you that because I wanted to introduce this good service to you and never asked you to use it on the Scarab. You knew it but now you are saying I turn back about the shipping method, or do you need me to provide your reply to recall?

5. I have said I don't care if I win or lose the dispute, I care if I do the right thing. I'm not a tough guy, what you think tough to you, is the truth. I'm an honest person, I opend the dispute under "item not as described" selection, I won't allow you violate my reputation by your own imagination. Besides, you owe me an apology for your last email.

6. You said you have worked with paypal for 10 years, I think you should know that once I closed a dispute I can not re-open it and paypal won't investigate your paypal account just because there's a dispute. So please answer me, why did you want me to quickly close my dispute so strongly?

7. What made you forget to mention there is people who didn't receive package else where? I though you were 100% delivery.
Here comes the most important and interesting part. According to the information you provided in your email, that English person who bought the same knife as I did and experienced this bad situation almost the same, BUT, the difference is, I receive the part With Blade, he received the part WithOut Blade.

8. I have stated my opinion, I would send what I received back to you and ask for refund, please confirm your address to receive the package. You can save your knife not to take it apart, though I'm sorry if my decision makes the person in England never receive his other part from you.

[mingyu]

The messages below are through paypal resolution center.

From Seller: Edge Marketing on 16-10-2009 19:04 GMT+02:00
Just because it's friday - that can happen here on a friday.
From Seller: Edge Marketing on 16-10-2009 19:03 GMT+02:00
The complete item was sent and this was never disputed by the client. I have offered to replace the part of the item that the client feels is missing ($20 dollars in parts) however the client is at a hostile stance and refuses to cancel the dispute. We might send it anyhow.


From Buyer: Mingyu Guo on 16-10-2009 22:26 GMT+02:00
First of all, I'm glad that you finally decide to talk to me through Paypal resolution center not through normal email.
Secondly, I think I have to state the truth since you, as the seller, didn't say it.
1. I know the item was sent BUT I do not know if it was sent completely. I received half of the item, which can not work without the other half, makes the $400 item a totally waste.
2. You let me wait about a month for the other half. Until there's only five days before I lose the right to open a dispute. At that very moment, we both know I can not receive your make up item within 5 days. I think it's reasonable to open the dispute to allow me more time under Paypal's protection, which seems a correct decision now.
3. I kept sending you email asking when you will send me the other half of the item, I didn't get any reply on that. But as soon as I opend the dispute, you immediately sent me a reply saying you were going to send it.
4. You refused to send me the other half item because I didn't agree to close the dispute, which I have the right to let it open until I receive the correct item. It has been a week since I opend the dispute, not until today you said the words "we might send it".
5. Since you said the other half of the item which I didn't receive is so cheap, $20 in parts (really? I'm happy to hear that), I would like to order 4 times more of that half, I will pay you another $80 for those.
6. Take a look at your last email to me, you used inappropriate words and not good manner to treat me. Since you chosed not to be a gentleman and I kept being gentle, at this very point of view, I am sure at a "hostile stance"(opposite stance).

From Buyer: Mingyu Guo on 16-10-2009 22:29 GMT+02:00
I'm happy to hear that you still haven't sent the other half to me, because I have already gave you enough time to do that but you didn't. I will send what I received back to you and ask for refund.
Again, please confirm your address to receive the package

[diggumsmack2]

Mingyu, It could be possible that someone(the postman) took a chance in stealing the first package hoping it would be something of value. Once this is done any other packages coming in to you from the same sender, "the postman" would know that theses packages would produce more valuable merchandise. Like a hawk he or she might waiting and watching for the same sender and reciever. Just a theory.

[mingyu]

Mingyu, It could be possible that someone(the postman) took a chance in stealing the first package hoping it would be something of value. Once this is done any other packages coming in to you from the same sender, "the postman" would know that theses packages would produce more valuable merchandise. Like a hawk he or she might waiting and watching for the same sender and reciever. Just a theory.

Hi diggumsmack2, I had the same theory before as you have now. However, the theory is not possible. We know the seller sent every knife in two packages, the first time I lost the Benchmade box and sheath, if the theory is true, I would not receive any more packages from the same seller. But the truth is, I still received two packages from the seller in the next two times, why didn't the postman steal them?

[stoneman]

That is crazy he should just send you a knife already together.

he was trying to get around the system, that knife is illegal where he lives. I have used pvk.com at least 6 times. twice for autos and the others were balisongs . I've never had an issue with Josh, I always got what I asked for, most times quicker than the usual shipping from the US. I have heard a bad story or two, but I personally have nothing but good things to say.

All that aside, if you knowingly try to have a knife that is illegal in your area shipped to you, the burden is yours to carry. If he takes it apart to bypass the law and you only receive half, the burden is still yours to carry. You were lucky to find a dealer willing to take the chance in the first place, Josh is the only one I have ever found who would.

It was his fault for forgetting about the other half, but it sounds like a mistake. what do you think he is trying to gain by keeping a half of a knife handle, it's worthless on it's own. It's not in his best interest to piss off and jerk around a client, I strongly doubt it was intentional.

[mingyu]

he was trying to get around the system, that knife is illegal where he lives. I have used pvk.com at least 6 times. twice for autos and the others were balisongs . I've never had an issue with Josh, I always got what I asked for, most times quicker than the usual shipping from the US. I have heard a bad story or two, but I personally have nothing but good things to say.

All that aside, if you knowingly try to have a knife that is illegal in your area shipped to you, the burden is yours to carry. If he takes it apart to bypass the law and you only receive half, the burden is still yours to carry. You were lucky to find a dealer willing to take the chance in the first place, Josh is the only one I have ever found who would.

It was his fault for forgetting about the other half, but it sounds like a mistake. what do you think he is trying to gain by keeping a half of a knife handle, it's worthless on it's own. It's not in his best interest to piss off and jerk around a client, I strongly doubt it was intentional.

Nice doubt.
If you carefully read the thread, you will know that if the seller can provide any receipt or proof of sending the packages, I won't even post the thread at the very beginning.
1. When I didn't recieve the whole item, the seller ignored my requests about the receipt, even I reminded him before purchase and he agreed. It the second time he couldn't show me receipt or other proof of sending.
2. I never refuse to take the full responsibility when I buy knife from USA, but before I take the responsibility, I must know if the seller really send them.
3. I'm not as lucky as you said. Actually, I never received a full item from him.
4. May I ask why did you say this:
It was his fault for forgetting about the other half, but it sounds like a mistake. All through his emails the seller never said he forgot it or it was a mistake. If you have communicated with the seller about my problem, I will be grateful if you can prove the above sentence.
5.
what do you think he is trying to gain by keeping a half of a knife handle, it's worthless on it's own. I think your question can be best answerd by the person in Britain who received a half of a knife handle.
6. Good luck to you and I hope you enjoy buying from PVK in the future.

[stoneman]

look man, I've got nothing against you. It's a shitty situation to be in, hopefully you receive the rest of your knife.

This thread is about Josh at pvk and I've had positve experiences with him. Since that's the reason we have this section, I felt compelled to share my experiences. He's not my buddy. I

haven't disussed this or any other matter other than my personal transactions with him. I just feel the positive should be out in the open as should the negative.

As for commenting on your situation, I'm only assuming. I can't imagine him or anyone for that matter withholding/not sending you parts simply to give you a hard time. If the package was

to be sent in two parts, I'm guessing he was pre-occupied and completely forgot to send the second half. ( I've done this myself, forgot the second package for a few days, but sent it

when I remembered) That is what I meant when I said "It was his fault for forgetting about the other half, but it sounds like a mistake." Perhaps I'm wrong.

I can't comment on him not showing proof of shipping the packages. I don't see why any competent seller ( especially one who's business is shipping knives) would not be able to provide

you with that information. He's obviously not winning any awards for his communication skills.

Once again, I hope this works out for you in the end. Who knows, maybe in a few weeks the darned thing will finally show up?

[mingyu]

I'm sorry Stoneman, I wasn't mean to start a fight. I apologize for my inappropriate language, I hope there's no misunderstanding.
Thank you for your good wishes, I appreciate your reply and opinion.
Sincerely,
Mingyu

[stoneman]

it's all good :bruce:, anyone would be more than frustrated in your situation

[norcal13]

I can't imagine him or anyone for that matter withholding/not sending you parts simply to give you a hard time.

you sir are as trusting as mingyu was.

the tone of the e-mails are evident after the dispute was opened.

mingyu its the only way to get someones attention.....right in the wallet.

[mingyu]

I'm glad to say I finally have a microtech scarab now!
The seller sent me the half knife again and today I received it, I want to thank you all who helped me a lot!
Thanks to all the people who cared about me and spent time helping me!

[Soup_Monger]

Phew.

Glad you got sorted, Mingyu.

[solidsoldier]

I just received a knife from Josh, all went well.

[Chris W]

I recently ordered a 29 Knives balisong from Josh at PVK and it was a super easy and smooth transaction.

[WolFF]

josh is good shit,, good on him for coming through in the end.. sorry you didnt recieve one of the scarabs you purchased..

try having it sent to a friend next time , incase it is the mailman/postman,

or your postman is stupid and delivered it to the wrong address. and that person never returned it , and opened it for himself.

still glad you have one now, and enjoy it.

[TPyke]

I had plenty of transactions with Josh and everyone of them went through 100%.
Great guy to talk with.

[deerslayer]

Okay, i don't know if i am posting this in the right forum. I am so fucking livid at pvk knife. I ordered a protech last week, should of been here already i called Josh yesterday and he told me he would look into it and never called me back, now he is not even answering the phone. Can anyone please help me how to get hold of this guy. I will never order from him again.:pissedevil: TERRIBLE EXPERIENCE!

[bigbob68]

Okay, i don't know if i am posting this in the right forum. I am so fucking livid at pvk knife. I ordered a protech last week, should of been here already i called Josh yesterday and he told me he would look into it and never called me back, now he is not even answering the phone. Can anyone please help me how to get hold of this guy. I will never order from him again.:pissedevil: TERRIBLE EXPERIENCE!

Sorry to hear, I have heard mixed reviews from PVK/Josh. Good luck and keep us posted.

[deerslayer]

Talking to him he seemed like a decent guy. I just want what I paid for. I will keep you posted.:ssad:

[Soup_Monger]

Deerslayer

It's the right place for your enquiries.

I remember this crazy thread and the two half MT's.

But I don't know Josh from a tin of paint.

[deerslayer]

Im hoping that a fellow devil will read this that knows him so I can get in touch with him. I don't like the idea that I paid this fella and he has not delivered the product or returned my calls.

[ratstuph]

Josh was always decent to me when I dealt with him, but over the last few years my faith in him diminished due to too many stories like this. However, I do believe most (all?) folks got their goods eventually.
all da best,
rats...

[trakker45]

Im hoping that a fellow devil will read this that knows him so I can get in touch with him. I don't like the idea that I paid this fella and he has not delivered the product or returned my calls.

The word on the street is that Josh will deliver- eventually. He is a one-man operation, and the knives don't get shipped out ASAP, much to everyone's chagrin. The fact that he is a one-man operation doesn't justify the delay, but it does seem to be the universally-accepted reason for the slow deliveries that have reportedly plagued his business in recent years.

I have never ordered from him yet, but he does have some rare knives I want, and these types of stories make me want to avoid him altogether. Please keep us updated. Thanks....

[deerslayer]

That's what im hearing he will eventually deliver, but not to pick up the phone or answer emails well that's just rotten customer service. I will be patient and hopefully it will come soon. I will keep ya. Posted.

[deerslayer]

O.k here is the the deal with Josh at PVK. I did receive a knife however it was not the right knife. I have called him back several times left countless e-mails. If you are thinking about ordering from him please do not. The only thing he will do is take your money and not deliver on time and or not send the right product. This individual who is located in mass. thinks he can get away with this. I am currently investigating him and contacting the better business beureau for his area. This is a scam DO NOT ORDER FROM HIM..................THIS FUCKER FUCKED THE WRONG DUDE.

[Jason Yao]

i bought a bm51 from pvk for like 225 and it's been 34 days already i tried to contact the guy who owns the site and no reply can anyone tell me what the hell is going on i have gotten all my other orders in the past so please tell me if u know anything about the site or is there a faster way of contacting the dude thx :flamer::mrandersson:

[calvinnation]

i bought a bm51 from pvk for like 225 and it's been 34 days already i tried to contact the guy who owns the site and no reply can anyone tell me what the hell is going on i have gotten all my other orders in the past so please tell me if u know anything about the site or is there a faster way of contacting the dude thx :flamer::mrandersson:

Canada, or US?

[Glenn]

1st, You paid to much

2nd PVK is know to be a problem

3rd Customs, Canada prohibits Balisongs from being transported in. You know this already. You have had items seized, therefore your name is likely to be on a watch list. :violindevil:

Edit to add, sorry I was not any help. But it is , what it is.

[mag1]

Sucks but I have to agree.

[Jason Yao]

things is that i asked for the boxes for my bradleys and he shipped them on the 6th of may and i still haven't gotten it

[silkworm]

Have you read the latest PVK thread on BF? You may be waiting a while.

[Jason Yao]

no what does it say apparently i was block by that site so

[Horizonod]

That's pretty fucked up. I wondered how all of the intimate details got posed on the internet then figured out Josh posted it all. Weird.

I wish Josh all the best. It sounds like he's going through a really rough time.

[Looseyfur]

http://issuu.com/joshbee/docs/final_copy_arrest

yeah it was last year.. but still it boggles my mind why anyone wonders why pvk is a bit screwy...

[CDR_Glock]

http://issuu.com/joshbee/docs/final_copy_arrest

yeah it was last year.. but still it boggles my mind why anyone wonders why pvk is a bit screwy...

Yikes! It published his social security number.

Not good.

[Looseyfur]

Yikes! It published his social security number.

Not good.

I would say it was irresponsible to post this but it was listed on bladefourms as feedback for this vendor.

that said someone who allegedly threatens folks and abuses women and rapes them, and scares the fuck out of his kids and makes death threats about them, among a host of other nonsense... isnt someone I would support with my purchases.

shrug-
Loosey

[Glenn]

no what does it say apparently i was block by that site so

So what did you do to get banned from bladforums ? :ross:

[Looseyfur]

So what did you do to get banned from bladforums ? :ross:

doesnt take much... I once got banned for using a smiley from THEIR site, from their own smiley menu...

/boggle.


long live the JD.
L.

[Horizonod]

I would say it was irresponsible to post this but it was listed on bladefourms as feedback for this vendor.

that said someone who allegedly threatens folks and abuses women and rapes them, and scares the fuck out of his kids and makes death threats about them, among a host of other nonsense... isnt someone I would support with my purchases.

shrug-
Loosey

This wasn't last year, it was withing the past few weeks. It appears to me that Josh is the one who posted all of the personal stuff on issuu.

I'll not judge by what the police report said because women can easily manipulate the system and men are almost always wrong.

It looks like the firearms he was charged with were IN his house, not on his person but the report says they are charging him with handgun violations.

Did you read the part where she graphicly describes an affair she's having?

Even with that she filed for divorce and it looks like she thinks she should get everything. Yeah, that's fair. Go out and violate your vows then when the marriage goes south take everything you can get.

Anyway, good luck with your purchase. A chargeback might be your only recourse.

[Looseyfur]

This wasn't last year, it was withing the past few weeks. It appears to me that Josh is the one who posted all of the personal stuff on issuu.

I'll not judge by what the police report said because women can easily manipulate the system and men are almost always wrong.

It looks like the firearms he was charged with were IN his house, not on his person but the report says they are charging him with handgun violations.

Did you read the part where she graphicly describes an affair she's having?

Even with that she filed for divorce and it looks like she thinks she should get everything. Yeah, that's fair. Go out and violate your vows then when the marriage goes south take everything you can get.

Anyway, good luck with your purchase. A chargeback might be your only recourse.

plenty of ppl out there to do bidness with that dont have this crap attached to them...

when your kids are scared of you, thats bad news.

you take it how you want, I wouldnt purchase stuff from him just based on what hes embroiled in... Plenty of ppl get hosed by their spouses, not all of them get the cops called on them.. odd that he posted this stuff about himself, that in and of itself further makes him seem wacky, and perhaps a bit manic.

semantics, perhaps but really there are some good eggs in the business that constantly deliver and even OVER deliver...
they deserve your trust and business...

L.

[Glenn]

Now Josh can officially blame it on the postal workers :madaddy:

http://ca.news.yahoo.com/canada-post-union-bargaining-table-canada-post-says-143557649.html

[silkworm]

I don't think the Josh who posted the link is the same Josh from PVK. If it is, then he's got more serious issues than the legal ones he's gotten himself into.

Regardless, chargeback on your cc and buy from reputable guys on these forums if you can.

[silkworm]

Now Josh can officially blame it on the postal workers :madaddy:

http://ca.news.yahoo.com/canada-post-union-bargaining-table-canada-post-says-143557649.html

Jason, you're really screwed now. Might as well just drive down to the States for your bali fix.

[Horizonod]

We wish Josh all the best.

As most of you know my wife Joyce and I run Horizon Bladeworks at www.nicnac.net as well as Bladezilla at www.bladezilla.com.

Josh runs PVK at pvk.com and KNIFEZILLA at knifezilla.com.

Many people are confusing Bladezilla (our site) with Knifezilla (Joshs site). We have been getting quit a few phone calls and emails from people mistaking the two and most aren't very happy. In their frusration they are somehow concluding Bladezilla is Knifezilla.

I've seen a few forums where there are questions posed about Bladezilla and somebody will reply with their , usually not so good, experience with Knifezilla by mistake.

If , in your travel around the forums, you recognize this case of mistaken identity would you please point out the differnce between the two sites and/or send me a PM so I can straighten it out.

Thanks. Nick

[urgencyy]

Hi, that was me that posted the most recent thread about him on BF. From what I read, I can't determine whether he in ins prison right now or if he was bailed out, can anyone help me out?

It says that part of the agreement with his wife is that he is allowed to contact her and go to the house to pick up his personal items and his "home business items" so if he is out of prison, I assume he will likely ship the knives out as he probably needs money now more than ever, but is anyone able to clarify whether he is out or not?

thanks

[bigbob68]

Hi, that was me that posted the most recent thread about him on BF. From what I read, I can't determine whether he in ins prison right now or if he was bailed out, can anyone help me out?

It says that part of the agreement with his wife is that he is allowed to contact her and go to the house to pick up his personal items and his "home business items" so if he is out of prison, I assume he will likely ship the knives out as he probably needs money now more than ever, but is anyone able to clarify whether he is out or not?

thanks

And now for your intro?

[urgencyy]

excuse me?

[Mr.LaBella]

excuse me?

The email and PM you received, with instructions to post one. :bwah: You don't remember now?:mabuse:

[Danté]

Fu** off PVK !

:balrog:

[ratstuph]

The email and PM you received, with instructions to post one. :bwah: You don't remember now?:mabuse:

Did you include the Canadian-American translator. Canucks cannot be held responsible if you fail to do your part.
asalwaysdoingmybesttomaketheworldabetterplace,
rats...

[urgencyy]

what a welcoming group of people.

[Glenn]

what a welcoming group of people.

It's simple, go here and make a introduction post !

http://www.jerzeedevil.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?41-Testing-the-Waters-(New-member-introductions)

You received a email/PM and a couple of prompts to do so.

If not don't let the door hit your ass on the way out. :devilzide

:manganr:

[Mr.LaBella]

what a welcoming group of people.

Do what we ask and we will be welcoming. Simple as that, respect is earned... Never just given.

[firebolt]

what a welcoming group of people.

i did not meet a nicer group off people,
they / we play rough, and like it like that,
there are very few rules here,

making a introduction post is one.

see it as wiping off the mud from your feet before you walk into Mr. LaBella's living room
just a polite gesture
it really is a very simple hi I'm ... and nice to be here
that is all.

no user account upgrade needed

[spookyse7en]

Does anyone from this company read this message board? I am royally fucking pissed off at these guys right now. I ordered a 29 Knives Tanto limited edition with Torx screws and they sent me one with the flushed pins. I reported their mistake immediately and after several days they told me they mixed up orders and sent the one I ordered to someone else.

Fine. I understand that people make mistakes.

I told them to let me know how I can send the one I have back and get the correct one but since then nothing. It has been over 10 days. They will not respond to e-mails or voice mails.

So it seems that they just want to ignore me and stick me with an almost 700 dollar knife that I didn't order.

This is bullocks and I have never had an experience like this from any knife vendor.

Has anyone else had a similar experience with this company?

[Looseyfur]

Does anyone from this company read this message board? I am royally fucking pissed off at these guys right now. I ordered a 29 Knives Tanto limited edition with Torx screws and they sent me one with the flushed pins. I reported their mistake immediately and after several days they told me they mixed up orders and sent the one I ordered to someone else.

Fine. I understand that people make mistakes.

I told them to let me know how I can send the one I have back and get the correct one but since then nothing. It has been over 10 days. They will not respond to e-mails or voice mails.

So it seems that they just want to ignore me and stick me with an almost 700 dollar knife that I didn't order.

This is bullocks and I have never had an experience like this from any knife vendor.

Has anyone else had a similar experience with this company?

shoulda done your research.. there's no shortage of poor feedback for this vendor.

[lachrymalex]

I've never dealt with them. I've heard from others that they suck balls, though. But, people have said the same thing about Botach Tactical, and I've never had an issue with them, so take that for what it's worth.

[Glenn]

Your fucked :devilfinger:

That is all.:bwah:



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Ok,ok.

How did you pay ? Open a dispute with paypal if you used it.

He is a known bad business to deal with.

Use the search function here to learn more.

[TRXRyder]

I hate hearing about this kind of shit. Loosey is right though, no shortage of bad feedback for these guys. In fact, I don't think I've ever heard anything good about them. Maybe you should contact your credit card company and dispute the charge...this will get their attention and you won't be fucked out of the $700...

In the future try EDCKnives.com for 29s

Good luck :thumbsup:

[Uz4u]

Contact Chris Olofson and tell him about the shit one of his big vendors is doing.

[spookyse7en]

I paid them with a USPS money order. Not sure how to dispute the order and get my money back.

And I guess you guys are right. I should have done my research.

I have bought a lot of cheaper knives from these guys years back and never had a problem. For some stupid reason I thought if 29 knives would let them sell their product they must be reliable.

I think I will contact the maker directly as suggested.

You know what makes it even worse? They sent me a knife that is cheaper than the one I ordered. So not only are they screwing me by sending me the wrong product but they are also overcharging me for it!

I will research for contact info on Chris but if anyone has it handy I would appreciate it.

[lachrymalex]

I just went back and looked at PVK's site. They sell those FU42 pieces of shit. Enough said, at least for me.

[warfront1]

I paid them with a USPS money order. Not sure how to dispute the order and get my money back.

And I guess you guys are right. I should have done my research.

I have bought a lot of cheaper knives from these guys years back and never had a problem. For some stupid reason I thought if 29 knives would let them sell their product they must be reliable.

I think I will contact the maker directly as suggested.

You know what makes it even worse? They sent me a knife that is cheaper than the one I ordered. So not only are they screwing me by sending me the wrong product but they are also overcharging me for it!

I will research for contact info on Chris but if anyone has it handy I would appreciate it.

I agree, 29 knives shouldn't be selling to distributors like this as it not only looks bad for PVK, but also for 29 knives.

If Chris contacts them with a complaint, I think they will shape up real quick.

[FriskyDingo]

"Knife budget evaporated in one day" huh?

[knifezoid]

I did order a Tach Bali from them before without issues.
But it was only $30 bucks or something I was willing to
risk. I don't think I'd trust them with a high end purchase.

I'd dispute like Glenn said. However, if it's paypal it's tricky
cause it's hard not to mention it's a balisong.

[sirhorsechoker]

if it were me i may file with the better bussiness bureau.

then contact my lawyer. he would start up a project like this for free. people usually get some act-right without actually having to sue them when a lawyers office starts bothering them.

a next time: buyer beware!

[spookyse7en]

"Knife budget evaporated in one day" huh?

This is the knife I told you I ordered before yours. Do you need me to clarify further?

[SkullTalls]

I paid them with a USPS money order. Not sure how to dispute the order and get my money back.

And I guess you guys are right. I should have done my research.

I have bought a lot of cheaper knives from these guys years back and never had a problem. For some stupid reason I thought if 29 knives would let them sell their product they must be reliable.

I think I will contact the maker directly as suggested.

You know what makes it even worse? They sent me a knife that is cheaper than the one I ordered. So not only are they screwing me by sending me the wrong product but they are also overcharging me for it!

I will research for contact info on Chris but if anyone has it handy I would appreciate it.

Not much you can do if you paid with a money order. If you would have used PayPal or your credit card you could have initiated a charge-back and gotten your money back AND you could have kept the knife, as great as that might sound it's one of the reasons I fucking hate PayPal..

The best you could do is try contacting the owner like a previous poster said, and I would continue to email them constantly and if you can find a number on the site anywhere call them up.

Good luck man hope it works out well for you, and reading this has changed my mind about dealing with this vendor..

[Mpsecare]

I just went back and looked at PVK's site. They sell those FU42 pieces of shit. Enough said, at least for me.

this.

[Helix]

I bought a few CCCs from them a few years back without researching them first and had a god awful experience. So many ephups from that dude on my order I don't even want to waste my time listing them all out. He finally sorted it out, but it took a couple months and constant badgering when he would not respond to me. That was the first and last time I will ever order from them. :devilfinger:

Good luck. I know I learned the hard way too (albeit a much more trivial amount of $ than yours), but next time..."research first, add to cart later."

[spookyse7en]

Well miraculously after starting this thread I got an email asking me to send the knife back for a refund.

It is pretty obvious someone from PVK/Knifezilla is watching this forum. This is not a coincidence in my opinion.

I appreciate all your responses guys.

[Mr.LaBella]

Are PVK and KNIFEZILLA the same? I am not sure.

Also, you fucksticks posted this thread in THE :wrongforu


:movethread:

[SkullTalls]

Well miraculously after starting this thread I got an email asking me to send the knife back for a refund.

It is pretty obvious someone from PVK/Knifezilla is watching this forum. This is not a coincidence in my opinion.

I appreciate all your responses guys.

Good to hear man

[calvinnation]

Never buy PVK if you are in the US. Its a terrible waste of time. I can see if you are in an international area but not US.

[Helix]

Are PVK and KNIFEZILLA the same? I am not sure.

Also, you fucksticks posted this thread in THE :wrongforu


:movethread:

PVK and Knifezilla are indeed one in the same. I got two thumbs down...one for each of ya.

http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5093/5475072418_1cbb5e138d_z.jpg

[Dferg10]

Multiple transaction. All smooth. Josh shipping two of my knives out the day I ordered them.

[Glenn]

Multiple transaction. All smooth. Josh shipping two of my knives out the day I ordered them.

You Sir, Caught lighting in a jar. :torch:

[Nathan Dewey]

I ordered a Hackman balisong from Josh Burbank, aka, the owner of PVK with no issues. It was exactly what I ordered with prompt shipping. Feel free to bump this thread so that all PVK experience can be easily searched for convenience.
Nate

[taoist]

Unscrupulous dealer. :devilfinger: There are far better knife businesses than JB.

[accurate]

Hi Josh, Ive bought quite a few knives from PVK over the past few years. I have some Microtechs that have broken main springs that have been sent back for repairs and broke again! (no, they are not just off the track)
I can fix them my self if I had replacement springs but I spoke to the woman at Microtech and she said they cant send any parts out! (sucks)
I have taken Piranah excalaburs apart and thuroghly cleaned and put back together no problem. Do you know where I can get replacement springs for the Ulratech, Combat Troodon, and the Macora? I bought the bits from you for the "speacial" screws.

This is not an avenue for communication with Josh. AFAIK he is not a member here. You need to go post your introduction in Testing the Waters.

[j.nailz]

Hey guys, I'm thinking of buying a bear ops 400 balisong from one of these stores. Are they reputable? Also are they a good store to get balisongs in kit form? Cheers.

[Xynche]

I'm interested too, they have a lot of cheaper balis I've wanted for some time but missed out on. This is the first time I've seen a jaguar available and hope they are legit.

[Chris_Himself]

Some people have ordered some customs from them with no problem at all. The owner is a little busy since I think it's just one guy doing everything and in my situation he took a little long to reply to e-mails but honestly if you know what you want it shouldn't be a problem at all.

I talked to him about ordering one once and he was very nice and to the point in our conversations.

[kizuf]

Take your time and look for a feedback:
http://www.jerzeedevil.com/forums/showthread.php/40047-Josh-Burbank-PVK-(merged-threads)

I did buy from PVK once and had one more knife shipped via PVK. Shipping was fast, knives were fine. However, on the first occasion the knife came without the box and papers, on the second occasion it was just the box missing. The missing box is understandable as it can be shipped cheaper that way...

[Linos]

https://usaknifemaker.com/catalogsearch/result/?q=bali+kit

http://www.knifekits.com/vcom/advanced_search_result.php?search_in_description=1&keywords=balisong+kit&x=0&y=0

[kxchaput]

Yes reputable. Ive ordered about seven knives from and received them no problem. No papers or box but i could care less about that.

However im not sure of the jaguars' authenticity. They say "jaguar style" and dont have anything stamped on the blade from what I remember.

Dont buy the 400 though. That thing has been nothing but errors(not due to the designers, just sloppy qc) on this forum

[taoist]

Take your time and look for a feedback:
http://www.jerzeedevil.com/forums/showthread.php/40047-Josh-Burbank-PVK-(merged-threads)

^^^^^ THIS ^^^^^

Caveat emptor!

[WyldStyl3]

Dont buy the 400 though. That thing has been nothing but errors(not due to the designers, just sloppy qc) on this forum

Seriously? I must've gotten a good one then because mine is flawless. There's not a single thing wrong with it and I'm picky and meticulous as fuck!

[Mpsecare]

Seriously? I must've gotten a good one then because mine is flawless. There's not a single thing wrong with it and I'm picky and meticulous as fuck!

mine is good too :thumbsup:

[welderknifenut]

Ok let me tell you something that happened with me on an order around christmas time. I ordered a kimu 5 high polished stainless, and a microtech ultratech tactical black bayonet style blade. Shipping was fast and knives came new in boxes and everything, but instead of getting a bayonet blade I got the ultratech tactical black tanto blade. I didnt make a big deal about it because the tanto was cool too so I decided to keep it besides I was working alot and didnt have time to be on the phone at work. But I did notice that when I placed my order for the ultra tech bayonet it showed that it was in stock but I guess I missed out and he probably sent me a similair looking knife so I wouldnt miss out on a tactical ultra tech. So no biggie I am a pretty understanding person but if you want something that shows its on stock it might be a good idea to call and see if they actually have the knife.

[WyldStyl3]

Or it could've just been a mistake.

[Kenny_Powers]

Ive ordered from them on a couple of occasions with no problems at all.

[welderknifenut]

Yeah I know but I didnt think too much of it like I said the tanto is really cool too so no big deal for me. Oh it was pvk I havent bought anything from knifezilla but I wouldnt hesitate to buy from them again.

[super deluxe]

I just ordered a ultratech from PVK with no problems. It took about a week to get to me from when I ordered.

[Vito445]

The first balisong I ever bought was from knifezilla. I was probably 12 years old and i had to give my older brother cash so he could (reluctantly) buy it for me with his credit card. Like a stupid 12 year old would, I bought a "Tach Bali" 100855

Needless to say, the balisong fell apart after 30 minutes of playing with it. I wanted to cry, but decided that the best thing to do was to call Knifezilla and tell them that the knife they sold me fell apart. What he ended up doing for me was sending me a jaguar, and all I had to pay was the difference which was like 6 bucks (the tach bali was 24 and the jaguar was 30 or something like that).
The one I got is the one lettered "B" And that balisong lasted me forever, it never broke or fell apart, and if the pins loosened up i would put it in a vise and crank it until it was tight again, unfortunately the local police own that knife now... but that's a whole 'nother story, and i've already gone off too far.

The point I am trying to make is that the guy at knifezilla did me a huge favor, it was incredibly kind of him, especially since I was so young and stupid at the time.

Also, if you aren't sure if he has real Jaguars in stock, call him and ask him if they are actual Jaguar brand or if they are just knock offs, 'jaguar style'

[cja245]

It seems like most of the problems people have with PVK are a result of international shipping to a country that doesn't allow balisongs. Josh is also terrible at responding to any form of communication.

I've bought several knives from Knifezilla in the past with zero issues. My experience with them has been good. They are definitely a legitimate company and have been around for a long time, but they have a mixed reputation. If they were the only source for a knife I wanted, I would give them a shot. But if given a choice I would go with a bigger dealer with a better reputation.

[InfinityShade]

I buy my militec oil from him. I haven't bought anything else from him yet though. The only beef i would have with him, is that fact he sells the knock off 42s from rsi and the piss pour quality over priced CCCs exiled knives.

[taoist]

The only beef i would have with him, is that fact he sells the knock off 42s from rsi and the piss pour quality over priced CCCs exiled knives.

And let's not forget the PCC knockoffs at $500. :devilroll:

[WyldStyl3]

And let's not forget the PCC knockoffs at $500. :devilroll:

I wouldn't mind having one of those, especially the brass one, because they look nice, but $500 is ridiculous.

[Blip Noir]

Ok let me tell you something that happened with me on an order around christmas time. I ordered a kimu 5 high polished stainless, and a microtech ultratech tactical black bayonet style blade. Shipping was fast and knives came new in boxes and everything, but instead of getting a bayonet blade I got the ultratech tactical black tanto blade. I didnt make a big deal about it because the tanto was cool too so I decided to keep it besides I was working alot and didnt have time to be on the phone at work. But I did notice that when I placed my order for the ultra tech bayonet it showed that it was in stock but I guess I missed out and he probably sent me a similair looking knife so I wouldnt miss out on a tactical ultra tech. So no biggie I am a pretty understanding person but if you want something that shows its on stock it might be a good idea to call and see if they actually have the knife.

I had a similar experience recently when I bought a Bradley Kimura V high polish. Instead of receiving that I got a Kimura VI high polish. When I emailed him he said the V was out of stock.

Although the VI is a fine looking knife, I wish he could have emailed and said the V was out of stock instead. I'm not too big on tanto style blades, but I decided to keep it. The hassle probably wouldn't have been worth it.

Other than that one time, I really haven't had an issue with Knifezilla/PVK before. It's run quite well for a one man operation.

[vjb.knife]

I have bought several knives both run of the mill and high end and they have always delivered. I would not hesitate to deal with them again.

Vince

[OnceBitten]

Accept no Substitute!