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Ariel Salaverria
07-11-2005, 03:09 PM
This is a custom order I forged back in February, but I just got to ground it last week.


Chainsaw chains and a flat 3/16" 5160 stock.

http://www.aescustomknives.com.ar/images3/CFdagger1w_big.jpg


Using an electric welder, I welded the chains to the stock (note the cutting teeth)

http://www.aescustomknives.com.ar/images3/CFdagger2w_big.jpg

http://www.aescustomknives.com.ar/images3/CFdagger3w_big.jpg


I made a cannister with a pipe and I made a sandwich with the welded piece and two layers of 304 stainless steel, one on top and one on the bottom, to prevent welding against the pipe (so I can retrieve the ingot easily)

http://www.aescustomknives.com.ar/images3/CFdagger4w_big.jpg


Cannister on the oven at 1300C

http://www.aescustomknives.com.ar/images3/CFdagger5w_big.jpg


Once it welded properly, I took it off the pipe/cannister (no pics of that process, sorry)

You can see the welded piece on this group picture, though.
http://www.aescustomknives.com.ar/images2/arielstuff2_bigger.jpg


Preparation on a new capsule, with an identical pipe, but this time I cut it on the upper corners.

http://www.aescustomknives.com.ar/images3/CFdagger6w_big.jpg


I placed a 2mm thickness asbestos paper as antiwelding barrier, as in this case, the SS 304 would be useless, as the bronze would weld with it.

http://www.aescustomknives.com.ar/images3/CFdagger7w_big.jpg


Cutting pieces of brass.

http://www.aescustomknives.com.ar/images3/CFdagger8w_big.jpg


Placing them on top of the asbestos paper.

http://www.aescustomknives.com.ar/images3/CFdagger9w_big.jpg


Some borax on top.

http://www.aescustomknives.com.ar/images3/CFdagger10w_big.jpg


Then I placed the 5160 stock and chainsaw ingot on top of that and I add more borax.

http://www.aescustomknives.com.ar/images3/CFdagger11w_big.jpg


More brass plates.

http://www.aescustomknives.com.ar/images3/CFdagger12w_big.jpg


Other asbestos layer to finish it up.

http://www.aescustomknives.com.ar/images3/CFdagger13w_big.jpg


Welding the cannister closed.

http://www.aescustomknives.com.ar/images3/CFdagger14w_big.jpg

http://www.aescustomknives.com.ar/images3/CFdagger15w_big.jpg


On the oven at 900C

http://www.aescustomknives.com.ar/images3/CFdagger16w_big.jpg


Hammering to weld the brass with the steel.

http://www.aescustomknives.com.ar/images3/CFdagger17w_big.jpg


Cannister after the hammering session.

http://www.aescustomknives.com.ar/images3/CFdagger18w_big.jpg


Cutting the cannister to remove the final ingot.

http://www.aescustomknives.com.ar/images3/CFdagger19w_big.jpg

http://www.aescustomknives.com.ar/images3/CFdagger20w_big.jpg


Future blade, just removed from the cannister.

http://www.aescustomknives.com.ar/images3/CFdagger21w_big.jpg


Ground blade.

http://www.aescustomknives.com.ar/images3/CFdagger22w_big.jpg
Bigger picture: http://www.aescustomknives.com.ar/images3/CFdagger22w_big.jpg

http://www.aescustomknives.com.ar/images3/CFdagger23w_big.jpg
Bigger picture: http://www.aescustomknives.com.ar/images3/CFdagger23w_big.jpg

http://www.aescustomknives.com.ar/images3/CFdagger24w_big.jpg



Regards,

Ariel

Stabber
07-11-2005, 09:52 PM
WOW!! You could probably make a knife out of a dognuthttp://www.jerzeedevil.com/forums/images/icons/icon10.gif

bart-1
07-12-2005, 04:00 PM
That is bad ass A!!:-D

Ariel Salaverria
07-12-2005, 05:52 PM
Well, I did make a knife from a dog... chain :D

Ariel

Clydetz
07-12-2005, 05:56 PM
WOW!! You could probably make a knife out of a dognut

Interesting concept there Stabber. Be sure to point that one out at the next S & A get-together! :D: Outstanding work as usual, Ariel!

Fenlore
07-12-2005, 06:05 PM
that looks pretty damn good

Lemmy
07-12-2005, 06:51 PM
That is so cool! Thanks for sharing. :-D

Mike Stewart
07-12-2005, 08:48 PM
Ariel (http://www.jerzeedevil.com/forums/member.php?u=139),,

Great post.

That is the best tutorial progression on chain Damascus that I have ever seen.

Very Cool...:bow:

Mike...............................:mike:

Hawaiian-Stylan
07-13-2005, 02:05 AM
That shit is bananas. B. A. N. A. N. A. S. :faint: :dance:

Kaxter
07-13-2005, 02:07 AM
Wow, really cool how that all happens. I had no idea all of that work went into making a blade. Cool stuff.

Rayne187
07-13-2005, 04:18 AM
You doing any teaching? Cuz if you do, Where do I sign up!


Thats kewl two thumbs up!!

Ariel Salaverria
07-18-2005, 01:04 PM
Some more info :)

Those brass pieces are cut outs from drums cymbals I repair.
If the drummer cracked it on the border, I cut a ring on the outside diameter to get rid of the cracked part, leaving a smaller diameter cymbal.


"how does the introduction of brass into the billet effect the final blade strength?"

It doesn't affect it at all, it's purely cosmetic, as the real steel for the blade got forged on the first canister at 1300C
The billet you see on this picture:
http://www.aescustomknives.com.ar/images2/arielstuff2_bigger.jpg

Is a fully welded/forged one. Think of this blade as a regular damascus from the chain, on where I left some superficial spots to show the links and then fill them with melted brass


Also, if anyone's wondering about tempering, instead of taking it to 850C and quenching it on oil (brass melts at that temperature), you can take it to 800C and quench it on warm water, with the same practical results.

In this particular case, I took it to 780C as I wanted it to be a little softer (about 55Rc) as this is a sticker. Of course the point and edges got a little more hard as they have less mass, but that's better for the knife too.

Thanks again for the comments!

Regards,

Ariel

PS: I can't do much teaching in my shop now as I barely fit in myself there, the last press took all the space I had left. Hopefully I'll be able to remodel my shop in the next few months to add some space there.
Plus I'm a little far away, you know :D

I do however, try to answer any questions anyone might have about what I do, so if you'd like to ask me something, please go ahead :)

WT351
07-18-2005, 08:22 PM
Oh wow. Once again, very nicely done Ariel.

Lazarus Long
07-21-2005, 08:53 PM
That is fucking awesome! Make me one!