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Ariel Salaverria
04-05-2008, 04:45 PM
I've had this on file for some time now, and since it's the bigger one I've made to date, I've decided to take some pics of the preocess.
Because of the big size, I had to do the chains separatedly from the inner steel core and then unite them in a second step.

12 pieces of motorcycle chain cut to measure 9" each.

http://www.aescustomknives.com/images16/tutorialsanmaimachete1.jpg

http://www.aescustomknives.com/images16/tutorialsanmaimachete2.jpg


Soldiered in groups of 3 chains each.

http://www.aescustomknives.com/images16/tutorialsanmaimachete3.jpg


Soldiered the previous groups, one on top of the other. Now I have 2 groups of 6 pieces of chain each.

http://www.aescustomknives.com/images16/tutorialsanmaimachete4.jpg


In the oven at 850 C

http://www.aescustomknives.com/images16/tutorialsanmaimachete5.jpg


I press the group between flat dies to compress the intersticial space between links.

http://www.aescustomknives.com/images16/tutorialsanmaimachete6.jpg

http://www.aescustomknives.com/images16/tutorialsanmaimachete7.jpg


Each group, already pressed.

http://www.aescustomknives.com/images16/tutorialsanmaimachete8.jpg


Now I place those chain groups on the sides of a 1/4" 5160 flatsheet and soldier on the ends to fix them in place.

http://www.aescustomknives.com/images16/tutorialsanmaimachete9.jpg


Then I make a square section cannister.

http://www.aescustomknives.com/images16/tutorialsanmaimachete10.jpg


And then I place the package of steel inside it and then close it.

http://www.aescustomknives.com/images16/tutorialsanmaimachete11.jpg


In the oven at 1300 C

http://www.aescustomknives.com/images16/tutorialsanmaimachete12.jpg


Press welding the package.

http://www.aescustomknives.com/images16/tutorialsanmaimachete13.jpg

http://www.aescustomknives.com/images16/tutorialsanmaimachete14.jpg


I then get rid of the cannister easily (thanks to a sheet of 0.5mm thickness in 304 stainless I've placed against each side.

http://www.aescustomknives.com/images16/tutorialsanmaimachete15.jpg


Package out of its container

http://www.aescustomknives.com/images16/tutorialsanmaimachete16.jpg


Flattening to the desired thickness.

http://www.aescustomknives.com/images16/tutorialsanmaimachete17.jpg

http://www.aescustomknives.com/images16/tutorialsanmaimachete18.jpg

http://www.aescustomknives.com/images16/tutorialsanmaimachete19.jpg

http://www.aescustomknives.com/images16/tutorialsanmaimachete20.jpg


Customer supplied drawing placed in top of the damascus bar. For this type of damascus, forging to shape might be detrimental to the knife, so I just cut it to shape.

http://www.aescustomknives.com/images16/tutorialsanmaimachete21.jpg


Ground, drilled and tempered blade before getting into the ferric perclorure.
In the background, you can also see a chain san mai tanto I've made from an earlier forging, where I didn't get the desired size of the original damascus sheet.

http://www.aescustomknives.com/images16/tutorialsanmaimachete22.jpg


Blade out of the acid bath, with no extra polishing, just washed in water with amonnia to kill the acid effects.

http://www.aescustomknives.com/images16/tutorialsanmaimachete23.jpg

http://www.aescustomknives.com/images16/tutorialsanmaimachete24.jpg

http://www.aescustomknives.com/images16/tutorialsanmaimachete25.jpg

http://www.aescustomknives.com/images16/tutorialsanmaimachete26.jpg


In hand for an idea of size (this thing is huge!)

http://www.aescustomknives.com/images16/tutorialsanmaimachete27.jpg

http://www.aescustomknives.com/images16/tutorialsanmaimachete28.jpg

http://www.aescustomknives.com/images16/tutorialsanmaimachete29.jpg


That's it for now, I'll get more pics of the handle making process and of the finished piece later too.


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Ariel

Clydetz
04-05-2008, 06:36 PM
Thanks Ariel for taking the time to take photos of your work! :thumbsup: Looking forward to seeing the next step. One question comes to mind... what happens to all the motorcycles in Argentina that you use the chains from? :manganr:

johlvlvy
04-05-2008, 06:55 PM
I love seeing your tutorials as well.
Thank you.

mrbieler
04-05-2008, 08:28 PM
Ariel, I love the materials you work with.:manganr:

My wife wears the pendent you made all the time. Thanks again.

bhamster06
04-05-2008, 09:18 PM
That was very interesting.

2fulhundin
04-05-2008, 09:26 PM
very interesting, step by step is nice thanks for your time

*THE PUNISHER*
04-05-2008, 11:16 PM
Smoking pics,a master knife maker at work thanx............

motoon
04-06-2008, 01:11 AM
Great thread, Ariel. Very interesting to see how you proceed in creating your excellent work.

RoadFish
04-06-2008, 01:36 AM
Very interesting. How big is that press?:jdsmokin:

RoyalM
04-06-2008, 06:45 AM
Really nice work.

That looks a hefty piece of steel indeed. Interesting design to, looks like it will be tip heavy and have a good chopping action/pivot point.

Can anyone explain how long chains have been getting used like this and why use a bike chain? I can understand a chainsaw chain as it's used as a moving blade sort of so the steel would be right.

I hope to get along to a shop one day so I can make a blade this way. Some sort of 2 or 3 day course I think would be required.

Ariel Salaverria
04-20-2008, 03:24 PM
Thanks for all the kind comments. I've finished it this past week. I promise I'll get better pictures soon!

http://www.aescustomknives.com/images16/machetesantiago1.jpg

http://www.aescustomknives.com/images16/machetesantiago2.jpg

http://www.aescustomknives.com/images16/machetesantiago3.jpg

http://www.aescustomknives.com/images16/machetesantiago4.jpg

http://www.aescustomknives.com/images16/machetesantiago5.jpg

http://www.aescustomknives.com/images16/machetesantiago6.jpg

http://www.aescustomknives.com/images16/machetesantiago7.jpg

http://www.aescustomknives.com/images16/machetesantiago8.jpg

http://www.aescustomknives.com/images16/machetesantiago9.jpg

http://www.aescustomknives.com/images16/machetesantiago10.jpg


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RoyalM
04-20-2008, 03:36 PM
Looks like she turned out real well and a nice sheath to boot. Your customer must be very happy with it.

As a fan of bigger knives it gets a 2 thumbs up from me.

Clydetz
04-20-2008, 03:53 PM
That is a beauty! Fantastic craftsmanship! :thumbsup:

MVP KNIVES
04-20-2008, 04:56 PM
That fob is a nice touch. cool post man!

Cyanide Ride
04-21-2008, 11:31 AM
I love the pattern the chain produces, a very nice bit of work!.