Browning Hi-Power

[Roadrunner]

Who has one? What do you think of it? I want a 9mm fun gun, not a combat or defensive pistol just a gun that's fun to shoot that I can find the ammo for cheap.

[WT351]

I like the HP. Have one. Have not shot it in years. It is one of the short list of guns I always wanted to have. It is a very accurate pistol and I enjoyed shooting it, even though I am one who constantly gets hammer-bit. For a 13+ round pistol it is surprisingly comfortable in the hand. You could definitely do much worse for a 9mm plinker. :fuckuup:

As to why I have not shot it in so long.....not really sure. I just seem to always grab something else when it's time to go to the range.

[007]

A High Power is the first pistol I would buy if we had sensible gun laws up here. :fuckuup:

[Wally J. Corpse]

Greetings, Mr. RoadRunner-

I have a Canadian Inglis Hi-Power, circa late '50's, with shoulder stock/holster set up, and the ever optimistic 1000 meter sight array. AS far AS a well built, reliably functional, comfortable gun goes, it's great. Entirely robust in design, rugged enough to withstand a roofing brutalization, yet perform flawlessly inside the dumpster behind K-Mart, and out in the VD clinic parking lot, with nary a stovepipe, nor light primer hit, even with cheapo commie 9mm rounds. AS not considered a Class III, or Title II short barreled rifle, nor restricted by any Curios & Relics codicles, legal to own in the US. Try one, you'll like it.

AS ever,

Your ol' pal,

Wally J. Corpse

[Guillermo]

Best 9mm in the world. You will find more expensive ones, ones with bells and whistles, but none finer.

[Ken Brock]

I like the Hi Power

[l2lku]

I have one (back home) and it was my all time favorite and "go-to" carry gun but I have to admit that I have not looked at newer designs in about 15 years as expats arent allowed to own guns in their host countries. There may be much better nowadays, my knowledge is outdated but it is still a great pistol. I found it very accurate and reliable.

[Tatuaje]

They feel good in my hand but I can't stand the magazine disconnect feature

[BlueSkyJaunte]

5 minutes to remove the mag disconnect. A useless feature anyway, but I'm sure the lawyers love it.

I love shooting mine.

Ken, you are a certifiable thread necrophile!!! :D

[l2lku]

I don't know what the Mag disconnect feature is? If I recall correctly, on mine there is a button by my right thumb, a simple press and the mag dropped out and the new one went in. I found it fast. Is this feature on the newer models or am I missing something?

[l2lku]

Ken, you are a certifiable thread necrophile!!! :D

Damn, I did not even spot the 2004 OP date. I wonder if he bought one?

[BlueSkyJaunte]

The mag disconnect is sometimes called the mag safety. It prevents the gun from firing if there is no magazine in the gun. Unfortunately it also makes what would otherwise be a nice, 2-stage-ish single action trigger into a grinding, crunchy affair. Removing the disconnect bits from the trigger mechanism is very simple.

Ken likes to revive zombie threads...on the one hand I salute his willingness to probe the depths of the JD graveyard. On the other hand, this tendency is kinda icky--like having 75-year-old Sophia Loren kiss you on the mouth.

[Ken Brock]

Sophia Loren was HOT



:cheesydevil:

[BlueSkyJaunte]

Sophia Loren was HOT



:cheesydevil:

Fixed that for ya...:shockedevil:

[El Gringo]

Shit...I was hoping for pics. (of the Browning that is.)

[unreconstructedgordo]

My Practical with Esmeralda Cocobolo Dorado grips and a Mad Dog 3/16" VooDoo Hound. Both are killing machines!
http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i203/gordonhulme/P1010494.jpg

[El Gringo]

Thats what I'm talkin about!:devilinheaven:

[IWantThatKnife]

http://iwantthatknife.com/Gallery/albums/military_guns/cloned.jpg

FEG 9mm clone and a real High Power in .40 S&W

[Iceman]

nothing not to like. 9mm



http://www.jerzeedevil.com/gallery/files/1/1/0/9/high_powerz.jpg

[motorhed66]

I had one ..I sold it . They are bitchin. I now have three CZ 75 varients...offspring of the browning ...eat everything in every bullet wieght and power level..acuurate as hell,,, thanks Mr. Browning.

[Elsilrac1]

I think you should treat yourself to a BHP! Here is mine.

http://i385.photobucket.com/albums/oo297/Elsilrac1/011.jpg

[l2lku]

Oh my heart. They are classic. I can't wait to be reunited. Mine still has the older plain original grips like the earlier posts.

[BlueSkyJaunte]

http://img182.imageshack.us/img182/2350/dscn0390ov7.jpg

http://img513.imageshack.us/img513/6554/dscn0388de3.jpg

[norcal13]

john daly with an argentinian detective slide.

od gunkote

love this pistol.

[Sheldon_Wickersham]

My #1 EDC choice, an old school 1954 vintage Austrian army BHP contract gun, Belgian made. 124 GR. Black Talon ammo by Winchester, factory mags, mag safety removed - Yaqui slide holster by Kramer, belt by Sullivan's Holster Shop. I have a mid 80's factory blued ambi-safety hi-viz fixed sight 'tactical' model as well - it's all good kids, no FTF's noted to date w/either...:madaddy:

[bushwacker bob]

They're still the standard issue sidearm for the UK forces, probably the best 'off the shelf' piece of kit they have.

[BlueSkyJaunte]

From a recent posting by Jason Burton of Heirloom Precision:

http://www.louderthanwords.us/mediumfoto/picts/ulfls/09112009/20342127775.jpg

[Parker]

Hard Chrome is always good :jdspam:

[Frankki]

Great looking pistols! Still wishing I had got that MKIII Hi-Power from my local gun shop back in 2000 or thereabouts. Great price (by our standard) too. Well I did have a CZ-75B already but still.. what a dumbass mistake. These days the pistol purchasing permits are nigh impossible to get because no-one is really sure what the new law is going to be like and all the license issuing is on hold. Damn!

[Blastmaster1972]

http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb269/Blastmaster1972/Motivators/poster12326229.jpg

Kind regards,

Jos

[l2lku]

Thanks for the pic Jos - that is my gun exactly.

[Slick]

I have a CD (Charles Daly) Hi-Power and it runs great! The best thing I did to is was get rid of the magazine safety and it improved the trigger pull so much that it seemed like I had a custom trigger job done on it. I really like the Hogue grips and the Mecgar magazines bump the capacity up to 16-rounds.

http://i311.photobucket.com/albums/kk445/snot-rocket/9mms.jpg

I say get one!

[13.45]

bhp is an excellent pistol :wes:

[El Gringo]

Slick, I been wondering about the Charles D version. I sure as heck cant
afford a Browning. (I had the opportunity yrs ago and blew it.)

Also how hard is it to disconnect the mag safety?

Well, just found out its discontinued. I cant afford one till next winter anyhow.
Perhaps I'll grab one up at one of the gunshows.

[IWantThatKnife]

Slick, I been wondering about the Charles D version. I sure as heck cant
afford a Browning. (I had the opportunity yrs ago and blew it.)

Also how hard is it to disconnect the mag safety?

Well, just found out its discontinued. I cant afford one till next winter anyhow.
Perhaps I'll grab one up at one of the gunshows.

I will sell you my .40 BHP for $850 or my FEG wannabe 9mm for $325!

[El Gringo]

I will sell you my .40 BHP for $850 or my FEG wannabe 9mm for $325!

No can do. I just dropped $600 to get the wife a new stove for Christmas.:devilzeek

[l2lku]

No can do. I just dropped $600 to get the wife a new stove for Christmas.:devilzeek

That's hot.

[Slick]

Also how hard is it to disconnect the mag safety?

It's about a 2-beer (20 minute job). Some say it can be done without removing the trigger, but I couldn't get that to work. The trigger comes out easy (1 pin) anyways. Then the small pin (that goes through the trigger) is removed and out it comes. I replaced the pin so I wouldn't lose it in case I ever sold the pistol and the new owner wanted it put back in.

I had heard the CD's were discontinued, but they come up for resale from time to time at reasonably good prices.

[unreconstructedgordo]

Showed a picture of my Practical BHP all ready. Here is my favorite BHP that I carry; a MK2 with OD Alumagrips , and some friends. I carry the BHP in an OLD Mad Dog kydex holster he made in 1989 or so , it was called the "Dogtrack" and it is friggin perfect and FAST on a Ligerbelt.
http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i203/gordonhulme/007-3.jpg

[Rock]

Who has one? What do you think of it? I want a 9mm fun gun, not a combat or defensive pistol just a gun that's fun to shoot that I can find the ammo for cheap.

Going back to Roadrunner's original intent to find a 9mm fun gun, I would recommend the S & W Sigma 9mm. Its about as point and shoot as a revolver and runs about $300 - $325 new, barely more than half of what you'd pay for a Glock 19.

I prefer the .40 myself, but the 9mm is cheaper to shoot and a little easier to handle.

I've had eighteen Glocks and about a half dozen Sigmas and the ergonomics on the Sigmas are preferable to me over the Glocks. Other than the Sigma .380, which was an absolute POS design-wise, and Smith ripping off a lot of Glock's features, I can't fault the Sigmas.

Dependable, accurate, and durable.

[Ken Brock]

Sigma.......oooof


it wasn't just the Sigma .380 that ripped off the Glock, it was the whole Sigma line. Which is why S&W had to pay off Glock

In my experience, the Sigmas that I've seen didn't stand up to a whole lot of shooting without excessive wear

a better option would be to get a police trade in Glock 19. The police trade ins usually have been carried a lot and shot very little. After they are traded in, Glock refurbishes them and sends them out to dealers

much cheaper than a new one but still in good shape

[Rock]

I've had no troubles with any Sigmas other than the .380 which had the magazine built as part of the handle and had to be pinched to be released. It held six + one and if you loaded the full seven the first round would ALWAYS stovepipe. Never had a stovepipe or misfire on any of my other Sigmas. Everyone knows they ripped off Glock. And they paid for it.

My overall choice is the Glock 23. Dollar for dollar, the Sigma is a good gun.

[rbmcmjr]

Who has one? What do you think of it? I want a 9mm fun gun, not a combat or defensive pistol just a gun that's fun to shoot that I can find the ammo for cheap.

I do and I like it. Few pistols feel as good in the hand as the GP/P-35/BHP. However, one of those which does is probably a better choice as a fun gun: CZ-75

They are nearly as universal as the Hi-Power and, in my experience, more robust as well. And for whatever reason, the Czech pistols are a real bargain too.

[IWantThatKnife]

Italiano, not Czech, but very similar in style and design:

http://iwantthatknife.com/Gallery/albums/EBR/tanfoglio_1.jpg
http://iwantthatknife.com/Gallery/albums/EBR/tanfoglio_2.jpg

Tanfoglio .45 Match

[Scary Sharp]

It's a great gun - not everybody likes a single action - very accurate, go for it!

[Blastmaster1972]

I don't get it guys. Somebody starts a thread about one of the greatest pistols ever invented. A real classic, designed by the great John M. Browning, improved by Dieudonne Saive at FN, the first high capacity 9mm.

And you guys start yapping about plastic guns??????:devilzeek












;):ssmile:

[l2lku]

one of the greatest pistols ever invented. A real classic:devilzeek:

Amen. Was it invented by him or revealed to him by a supernatural force?

Green incoming!

[Rock]

I learned to shoot on a 1911 when I was nine years old. Thirty something years later, I am far more comfortable with internal safeties and a heavier trigger pull than I ever was with a cocked and locked single action.

The post initiated about a fun 9mm to shoot, not a combat or defensive pistols. The gent who started it just asked if others though the Browning HP was the best way to go. :ssmile:

[Slick]

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b240/rbmcmjr/guns/tgsandcz75.jpg

Rick

Awsome CZ you have there, Rick!

Mine came with the same grips back before they were allowed to be imported into the USA (when they were still a Warsaw-pact nation).

[Kinnear Knife]

I enjoyed my S & W 59 more. Guess I likeed the double action, the hammer drop safety and the grip size. Hi-power felt more "solid" though.
I do like a .45, but for fun... the 59.

Have a good one!

[falcon125]

one of the greatest pistols ever invented. A real classic, designed by the great John M. Browning, improved by Dieudonne Saive at FN, the first high capacity 9mm.


Amen. Was it invented by him or revealed to him by a supernatural force?

John M. Browning had sold his patents to the 1911 so He had to design a pistol that did not use any of those patents. Kind of starting from scratch.
Dieudonne Saive was really the Co-Designer of the Hi-Power. He invented the double stacked Magazine (which Browning was reluctant to include in the design) and took the design from 1926 to 1935 when it was produced.
The Magazine disconnect or "safety" was a French design requirement Not the idea of either designer.

Anyhow, great gun. If you want a classic, this would be my 1st choice. You will pay a little more but if you ever have to sell it the value will always be there. Or if you have kids this would make a nice family heirloom.

If price is more of a factor then there are plenty of 9mm that would fit the bill. Several have been mentioned. I think the best bang for the buck 9mm fun gun would be the Ruger P89. Its not the slickest or most accurate but its solid and fun to shoot.

[IWantThatKnife]

I don't know Falcon - the "best" 9mm fun gun bang for the buck:

In the foreign category we have the FEG P9R - externally like a High Power and the internals of a S&W Model 39:

http://iwantthatknife.com/Gallery/albums/military_guns/FEG_1.jpg
double action, double stack, $200

For an American Option - the S&W Model 39-2:

http://iwantthatknife.com/Gallery/albums/EBR/S_W_39_2_3.jpg

I paid $350 for one, and traded a Ruger SP101 for the other...

[norcal13]

The Magazine disconnect or "safety" was a French design requirement Not the idea of either designer.



i never knew that.
i always wondered why they would ruin a nice trigger like that.

thank god 10 minutes and a punch reverses this french fuckup.

[falcon125]

I don't know Falcon - the "best" 9mm fun gun bang for the buck:

In the foreign category we have the FEG P9R - externally like a High Power and the internals of a S&W Model 39:

http://iwantthatknife.com/Gallery/albums/military_guns/FEG_1.jpg
double action, double stack, $200

$200?
That wins by a long shot. Nice looking as well.

[l2lku]

Yeah - To me that is a good looking pistol. I have no experience with the S&W Model 39. Am I reading that this is not only a good looking piece but mechanically very good also - reliable, accurate, durable etc, regardless of price?

[Sheldon_Wickersham]

To paraphrase: 'I don't get it guys. Somebody starts a thread about one of the greatest pistols ever invented. A real classic--and you guys start yapping about other guns??????'

Start a freaking S&W Model #39 elsewhere already fer fuckin' crying out loud ya freakin' putz's... :devil1:

[JackBlades]

To paraphrase: 'I don't get it guys. Somebody starts a thread about one of the greatest pistols ever invented. A real classic--and you guys start yapping about other guns??????'

Start a freaking S&W Model #39 elsewhere already fer fuckin' crying out loud ya freakin' putz's... :devil1:

Hi Sheldon. I met you and said hello at a knife show several years ago.
The Browning Hi-Power is a classic design of a world-wide accepted combat handgun. Let's give it it's due.
Sure, it has been far surpassed by more innovative designs. Lot's of well-informed folks prefer the 1911 to the P35. I myself have moved on to the SIG family of defensive sidearms. I admire the Glocks, they are just not for me. Yes, I have tried them, G19 and (gasp) G20. I just can't get past the horrendous trigger. To each his own. My Sig P239 is just about perfect for my needs. For house duty, my old Colt Series 80 (Highly customized) will fill that role.

Let's keep it civil and let the BHP guys chime in with some good stories.

[IWantThatKnife]

:decisions:jdposts::decisions

Sheldon - we can only listen to your classic High Power tale so many times!!!!

I like your classic High Power though...have two Inglis High Powers to build - matched slide/frame combos...:devilinheaven::devilzeek:devilinheaven:

[falcon125]

To paraphrase: 'I don't get it guys. Somebody starts a thread about one of the greatest pistols ever invented. A real classic--and you guys start yapping about other guns??????'

Start a freaking S&W Model #39 elsewhere already fer fuckin' crying out loud ya freakin' putz's... :devil1:

What are the internal differences between a BHP and a S&W #39?:cheesydevil:
They kind of look the same:madaddy:

[IWantThatKnife]

Falcon - the High Power is single action; the 39 is double action...big difference, but some similarities.

[Sheldon_Wickersham]

LOL, I'm just sayin'...

Besides, someone interested in BHP's (but not the internal differences between that and a ^%&!*!) may actually do an info search here someday... :devil1:

[rbmcmjr]

To paraphrase: 'I don't get it guys. Somebody starts a thread about one of the greatest pistols ever invented. A real classic--and you guys start yapping about other guns??????'

Start a freaking S&W Model #39 elsewhere already fer fuckin' crying out loud ya freakin' putz's... :devil1:

Reading the first post:


Who has one? What do you think of it? I want a 9mm fun gun, not a combat or defensive pistol just a gun that's fun to shoot that I can find the ammo for cheap.

It sounds to me like he was asking for advice on a 9mm fun gun, not just the BHP.

Rick